D&D (2024) Warlock cantrips

[Shardstone]

My group didn't read it as you could take them, until this thread and I brought up that if we use the 2014 book then warlock cantrips are cantrips warlocks can take, so I am going to playtest a john Constintine like character that has sold his soul to 3 demons.
If/When he dies all three will want to collect and it will send hell into a civil war.

This is unironically a sick idea.

 

[Shardstone]

yet they are warlock cantrips so as a warlock I can easily read that as a cantrip I can take.

That only holds true if you didn't read the new spellcasting section for warlocks which, as copy/pasted earlier in the thread, explicitly states you have to take a spell from the ARCANE SPEL LLIST.

 

[OldSchoolGamerGirl]

I don't know why we need a 4 page thread to decide whether something is unclear or not.

because people like to argue and look down on and insult people on the internet.

But getting into a debate on how crystal clear some language is is downright silly. If a group finds a rule unclear, they should report it. If enough people report the same thing....well that tells WOTC there's an issue in the language there and it needs to get fixed. Its that simple.

 

[OldSchoolGamerGirl]

That only holds true if you didn't read the new spellcasting section for warlocks which, as copy/pasted earlier in the thread, explicitly states you have to take a spell from the ARCANE SPEL LLIST.

again, except these are warlock cantrips, who can take warlock cantrips (or warlock spells) other then warlocks?

 

[UngainlyTitan]

yet they are warlock cantrips so as a warlock I can easily read that as a cantrip I can take.

If you refuse to accept plain English then the issue is beyond any help of mine.

Apropos nothing: I am reminded of a story a friend relayed to me once. He was playing in a wargaming club and the game was a Napoleonic battle, I cannot remember which one but it was Russians vs French. This was cardboard not minis., any how the Russian player setup his artillery in all water lake hexes, claiming that the rules did not forbid it, just movement across all water hex-sides and the setup instruction was east of some hexline or other.

 

[OldSchoolGamerGirl]

If you refuse to accept plain English then the issue is beyond any help of mine.

Apropos nothing: I am reminded of a story a friend relayed to me once. He was playing in a wargaming club and the game was a Napoleonic battle, I cannot remember which one but it was Russians vs French. This was cardboard not minis., any how the Russian player setup his artillery in all water lake hexes, claiming that the rules did not forbid it, just movement across all water hex-sides and the setup instruction was east of some hexline or other.

in battle tech standing in water is a free way to get fire sinks

 

[UngainlyTitan]

in battle tech standing in water is a free way to get fire sinks

Wow! way to miss the point. This is early nineteenth artillery, the guy was claiming that it was legit to position it in the lake. Where it would sink under the water.

 

[OldSchoolGamerGirl]

Wow! way to miss the point. This is early nineteenth artillery, the guy was claiming that it was legit to position it in the lake. Where it would sink under the water.

I'm not missing the point, neither statement has ANYTHING to do with this game...

the equivalent of putting 19th century artillery in the water is the dumb "It doesn't sy when I die I can't keep playing my character" or the bucket of water healing... they are dumb loop holes that require you not to understand the language we all speak.

Warlock cantrips are cantrips warlocks" can take, and "Devs brought up multi deals with new warlock but not old one and a pact is a deal and the only way you could get 2 pacts is if you could take the pact cantrip as a cantrip" is not even a little like them.

This is the dumbest argument on here. Someone asked because there entire group was unsure, all I said was you could read it either way and it isn't major power boost to do it.

 

[cbwjm]

I think it's fairly obvious which cantrips a warlock can choose as it specifically calls out the arcane spell list, not warlock cantrips. It seems pretty straight forward when you read the cantrips section of the warlock's spellcasting feature, the wording is clear on the issue.

 

[Charlaquin]

again, except these are warlock cantrips, who can take warlock cantrips (or warlock spells) other then warlocks?

Nobody. They’re Warlock Cantrips because they’re Cantrips that are granted by Warlock class features. They are not otherwise selectable. If they were, they wouldn’t be Warlock spells.