Shadowdark looks so good!

[Nightfly]

Yeah I don't like the sound of any of those except maybe the Witch.

The Witch is awesome.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

PFFFFT. Grow a pair of ovaries and play the game like a real woman!

Hey, I love me some gruesome deaths for my (rare) characters.

My players? Not so much.

They are the kind who arrive at the first game with a full sketch pad of drawing of their character, a custom mini and a full sound track for every moment of the PC's life.

They take the death of a character quite hard

 

[darjr]

Hey, I love me some gruesome deaths for my (rare) characters.

My players? Not so much.

They are the kind who arrive at the first game with a full sketch pad of drawing of their character, a custom mini and a full sound track for every moment of the PC's life.

They take the death of a character quite hard

Run it how you like. They’ll die eventually.

 

[Bill Zebub]

4d6dH imo.

This Is The Way.

 

[Bill Zebub]

Hey, I love me some gruesome deaths for my (rare) characters.

My players? Not so much.

They are the kind who arrive at the first game with a full sketch pad of drawing of their character, a custom mini and a full sound track for every moment of the PC's life.

They take the death of a character quite hard

Curious why you want to use a system that so explicitly embraces characters with bad stats dying.

 

[darjr]

4d6dH imo.

This Is The Way.

As Crom intended.

 

[JohnF]

Hey, I love me some gruesome deaths for my (rare) characters.

My players? Not so much.

They are the kind who arrive at the first game with a full sketch pad of drawing of their character, a custom mini and a full sound track for every moment of the PC's life.

They take the death of a character quite hard

I'd love to play 5e with those players! They sound awesome! But Shadowdark is not for them, even with 4d6 char gen.

Shadowdark's vibe is its own thing, from char gen to advancement. I just tried to use a wine analogy on a friend to help him understand the differences between fantasy RPGs that aren't exactly the same play experience though they seem really similar. Here it is: merlot, champagne, and port may all be wines, but they drink differently. (I forgot he was a beer guy. My analogy was wasted.)

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

Curious why you want to use a system that so explicitly embraces characters with bad stats dying.

'cause as I said, I personally love it. I'm the DM, and I'm the one buying the books. I'm personally tired of the characters with 1000 buttons with different recharges on a 4 pages character sheet.

But yeah, my players do love the safety of 5e (they still die a lot in 5e). They love the idea, the fantasy, behind a moon druid, a rune knight, an astral monk and a clockwork sorcerer, but honestly, they dont understand how they work. All those rules and options are way too much for them; they barely remember which die to roll in-between games

So that's why I'm looking for a OSR-ish game that offers many cool character fantasies, without overloading the character sheet. Or a game that's easy enough to modify to create those concepts without spending hours on it. Hence, Shadowdark.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

I'd love to play 5e with those players! They sound awesome! But Shadowdark is not for them, even with 4d6 char gen

The spell miscast penalties would guaranty that no one ever play a caster, that's for sure

But, hey, you know. They are the best group in the world. We just have different... sensibilities.

 

[Krachek]

If someone want to avoid frighten usual 5ed players you can use point buy.
The average for 3d6 six time is 15 points.
Ex.: 15,12,10,8,8,8 for an awesome +0 bonus.

Choosing his background won’t break the game neither, nor giving average hit points instead of rolling.