D&D (2024) Fighter (Playtest 7)

[FitzTheRuke]

How does the brawler differ from a non-ki monk who uses found items in much the way I thought a lot of those in kobudo came from found items (granted not table legs or beer mugs)?

How does the Brawler compare to, say, a Champion or Battlemaster with the Tavern Brawler Feat?

 

[FitzTheRuke]

So... wait. Does the Brawler's Improvised Weapons only do d4's (1-handed) and d6's (2-handed)? Because, yeah, that sucks. It's not even as good as their Unarmed Strike (which is really weird).

 

[Kinematics]

So... wait. Does the Brawler's Improvised Weapons only do d4's (1-handed) and d6's (2-handed)? Because, yeah, that sucks. It's not even as good as their Unarmed Strike (which is really weird).

Improvised weapons do as much damage as their nearest equivalent weapon, assuming they are not entirely unlike any normal weapon. If all you got was a club (for one-handed), then yeah, that's 1d4, but up to 1d8 should be possible. Two-handed should generally be 1d8-1d10 (at least til level 15).

 

[Parmandur]

How does the Brawler compare to, say, a Champion or Battlemaster with the Tavern Brawler Feat?

At low level, the main difficulty the ability to apply Weapon Mastery abilities ad hoc, which had big potential: other Fighters need to change weapons or respec them daily at high Level, the Brawler can apl differentMasteries with the same weapon in different attacks in the same action. They get the unarmed die boost of the Unarmed style from Tasha's at 3rd, which scales later, though they don't get the auto grapple damage until later.

So... wait. Does the Brawler's Improvised Weapons only do d4's (1-handed) and d6's (2-handed)? Because, yeah, that sucks. It's not even as good as their Unarmed Strike (which is really weird).

Improvised weapon can be higher, but there is an element of "Mother May I" there.

 

[James Gasik]

To be fair, there are sort of mitten-things that go on polearms, albeit they're usually so guards beat people senseless with them without accidentally killing them.

But your general point stands, and I suspect your DM didn't know about the mitten-things or he'd have described them.

Some very sword-like ones did have actual sheaths but I think I've only seen those for Japanese polearms:

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(The mitten-things I've seen in a museum and on YouTube video but couldn't find an image of)

The fact that it was a lucerne hammer which already has a blunt striking surface means that only the pointy bit would be so protected, but that's a neat bit of info. I wonder what he'd have said if I asked him if the Wizard had his staff sheathed as well lol.

 

[Stalker0]

I would rather have a leader/warlord/banneret subclass in the core book rather than an unarmed subclass that encroaches on the Monk which desperately needs help and is already having its lunch t taken by the new drancer subclass in the Bard. A proper Warlord style subclass fills a niche that never really got filled in 5e since the Purple Dragon Knight is so ineffective, in a deprecated book and never got a rework in Tasha's or Xanathar's.

You take a battlemaster and give them the Commander's strike and Rally maneuvers....and to me you have the bulk of the "warlord" that has been shown in 4e.

 

[Mistwell]

A person cannot be wrong in matters of personal taste. People most certainly can. Great movies fail at the box office. Reality TV gets great ratings. Bad politicians get re-elected year after year. People (plural) have a terrible track record when it comes to their gut.

Or they were not great movies, the Reality shows were higher quality than you think, they're not bad politicians, etc.. You're just substituting your preferences for "right," while saying others doing that with those things are "wrong" because...their tastes are not yours?

 

[James Gasik]

You take a battlemaster and give them the Commander's strike and Rally maneuvers....and to me you have the bulk of the "warlord" that has been shown in 4e.

That's a fairly reductive viewpoint when you consider powerful Warlord abilities like Stand the Fallen or Reorient the Axis, or the ability to grant party wide bonuses to accuracy or initiative.

 

[Vaalingrade]

You take a battlemaster and give them the Commander's strike and Rally maneuvers....and to me you have the bulk of the "warlord" that has been shown in 4e.

Only once per encounter, many, many levels after the real warlord was doing this stuff at will. And also lacking 80% of the 4e warlord.

 

[Stalker0]

Only once per encounter, many, many levels after the real warlord was doing this stuff at will. And also lacking 80% of the 4e warlord.

You can do it at 3rd level and 4 times per short rest. I get its not the same as at-will but this is a gross exaggeration.