D&D General BG3 Massive Spoiler Thread

[DarkCrisis]

You kill everyone, who is going to share your description?

Nevertheless, by Act 3 everyone will recognise you.

As for "the absolute's whims", finish the game.

I mean, goblins did survive. Prisoners have been taken. Not to mention his spy network. Or heck sending minions to ask around. “Hey Harper friend, who killed the Drider? Tattooed Drow? Cool.”

IN BG1, people were sent after you all the time. Traps set to kill you. Etc.

I guess I’ll chalk it up to hubris. The new hero of the land wouldn’t and couldn’t just waltz in here. And those face tattoos are popular this year…

 

[Paul Farquhar]

When you finish, you will realise it can be put down to [massive spoiler].

 

[MarkB]

I'm enjoying this series. They really bring the cheese to their combats.

 

[Scribe]

Another big patch, I've been too busy at work, and get to work today as well (hurrah! wait...) but after/tomorrow there is supposed to be a big storm ripping through the region so I'll be inside and working on tweaking my mod I think.

 

[haakon1]

Act 1, Goblin Camp. Last weekend I took out the first bosses. This weekend I killed every humanoid there, with sneaking around from the Underdark waypoint, attacking everyone outside in 3 little fight, and then a huge fight after using the Goblin waypoint and climbing up under fire.

Left alive were only the drunk sleepers, the 2 human cultists first encountered near the Owlbear, and 3 low level goblins I missed - they showed up after the final battle with Minthara and 3 goblin bosses. Fighting from overhead surprise attack made that fight very easy.

(Oh, I forgot about the goblin non-Absolute in the cage. Maybe I should rescue him later.)

Anyhow, I theorized maybe if I annihilated her army, I could talk to Minthara and leave her alive for Act 2. Doesn’t seem to be an option.

I wondered about knocking her out with a nonlethal attack, but I couldn’t figure out where that option is? I suspect that might be blocked, just as Hold Person didn’t work on Minthara.

In the end, Minthara was fighting alone but got up to our sniper position above and nearly took down my PC before Lae-zel killed her with a a greataxe.

I had Lae-zel carry the body and put all Minthara’s gear in an Old Backpack (from the Phase Spiders of the Underdark) to give it back if we can revive her. Sad to see full NPC gear. Turns out a Revivify scroll said she isn’t a valid target. And Withers didn’t offer a choice of her.

So, I think she’s a full goner, but who knows? Maybe Halsin or some Underdark Drow or someone in Act 2 can “save“ her. Or I needed to drop the body a Withers feet. Seems like 99% unlikely anything will work.

Alas, DM’d D&D allows crazy stuff CRPG didn’t think of. Old story: My players killed Drelnza, the boss monster vampire general at the heart of “The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth” classic AD&D Greyhawk module. They had a Scroll of Resurrection, and after debate that it wasn’t her fault she’s a vampire, they used the scroll. She’s a significant live, non undead evil but murky NPC in my campaigns even now. Out of character, my players didn’t regret it and I appreciated giving me an interesting NPC.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I wondered about knocking her out with a nonlethal attack, but I couldn’t figure out where that option is?

It's on the reactions hotbar tab.

I don't know that would work though. I non-lethally took out the act 1 owlbear last night, and the game proceeded treating it as dead.

But I think it's possible to move on to act 2 without completing either "save the grove" or "destroy the grove" quests. The tieflings are thrown out and the ritual of thorns is completed. You just don't get a quest marker pointing the way.

 

[haakon1]

It's on the reactions hotbar tab.

I don't know that would work though. I non-lethally took out the act 1 owlbear last night, and the game proceeded treating it as dead.

But I think it's possible to move on to act 2 without completing either "save the grove" or "destroy the grove" quests. The tieflings are thrown out and the ritual of thorns is completed. You just don't get a quest marker pointing the way.

Thanks, yeah I want to have my cake (save Halsin, Grove, and Tieflings) and leave Minthara alive too. Doesn’t seem possible, but with the depth of BG3, you never quite know.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Thanks, yeah I want to have my cake (save Halsin, Grove, and Tieflings) and leave Minthara alive too. Doesn’t seem possible, but with the depth of BG3, you never quite know.

Most likely way would be to save Halsin and send him home. Then move on to act 2 without killing Minthara.

I doubt Halsin would join you even if he survives.

 

[haakon1]

Most likely way would be to save Halsin and send him home. Then move on to act 2 without killing Minthara.

I doubt Halsin would join you even if he survives.

Actually the first thing I did was kill everything but Halsin in the Worg Pens. I thought that would free Halsin, but he refused to leave and told me I had to kill the 3 leaders. I guess the game requires a Halsin or Minthara choice.

 

[MarkB]

Actually the first thing I did was kill everything but Halsin in the Worg Pens. I thought that would free Halsin, but he refused to leave and told me I had to kill the 3 leaders. I guess the game requires a Halsin or Minthara choice.

He tasked me with killing the three leaders, but didn't insist on staying. In fact, he made it clear that if he stayed he'd be unable to resist wolfing-out at the sight of any goblins, so offered to sneak out and leave me to it if I preferred a more stealthy approach.

But what it comes down to is that the goblins in the camp aren't the only ones in the region, just the ones who happen to currently be home, and the only way the refugees can leave the Grove safely is if there are no leaders left to unite the goblin forces.