D&D 5E Check Out Planescape's Table of Contents & More!

Brandes Stoddard has received a copy of Planescape: Adventures in the Multiverse (which come out in two weeks!) and is posting loads of photos over on Blue Sky. You can check out his feed for the whole treasure trove--here's a look at the table of contents.

 

[Maxperson]

Yet you are also claiming that the book has no material on the other outer planes, while dismissing the Gatetowns as being part of the Outlands. So which is it?

First, techincally(and technically is called the best kind of correct for a reason), they are a part of the outlands. In actuality they are 90%+ the neighboring plane because of the amount of influence there.

Second, please quote me saying that there is no material on the outer planes, because that's a substantial mischaracterization of what I have said from my first post here. What there is, is not nearly enough to go on. 4 pages on the general outlands, 2 of which cover EIGHTEEN realms, and a bunch of gate towns that while they are technically in the outlands, are mostly the neighboring plane and not the outlands. And I see nothing on the other planes in the table of contents.

Third, False Dichotomies are as usual, false. I reject your "which is it" that so badly mischaracterizes what I've been saying and go with the different option that has been my stance here.

 

[Demetrios1453]

I'm usually kind of a "curated list" GM when it comes to PC options, but if I do decide to run this I am going to throw the doors wide open.

Speaking of which, the thought just occurred to me that perhaps we'll see the baraiur and the glitchling/rogue modron as a free suppliment on D&D Beyond like the the locathah was for Saltmarsh. I do expect some sort freebie goodie(s) on D&D Beyond, as they've had them for both DL and SJ, so expect we'll at least get some free monsters, so maybe our missing races will be there as well...

 

[Parmandur]

Speaking of which, the thought just occurred to me that perhaps we'll see the baraiur and the glitchling/rogue modron as a free suppliment on D&D Beyond like the the locathah was for Saltmarsh. I do expect some sort freebie goodie(s) on D&D Beyond, as they've had them for both DL and SJ, so expect we'll at least get some free monsters, so maybe our missing races will be there as well...

I think they must have some sort of plan there.

 

[Maxperson]

I wonder if they think certain settings are more likely to be treated as a one off lark than a long campaign. Dragonlance got a module, for example, much like Ravenloft did with Curse of Strahd. But Eberron got a full book, rather than the mixed bag. I don't own any of the MtG settings but I gather that Ravnica and There's at least were more traditional setting books. That both Spelljammer and Planescape got the hybrid product suggests that WotC maybe thinks those settings need a more concrete introduction with a built in adventure. If they ever were to do Dark Sun, I would expect similar treatment for similar reasons.

That could be correct, though I think Planescape has had enough people clamoring for it that they would have given it more weight. Spelljammer not as much.

I am still waiting for a big fat Eberron adventure or preferably anthology...

Haven't the adventures been released with a blurb at the beginning on how to run them in any setting out there? I got the feeling that they were avoiding adventures for specific campaign settings and the adventures defaulted to FR because that was the default setting, but were designed to be placeable in any setting.

 

[Reynard]

Haven't the adventures been released with a blurb at the beginning on how to run them in any setting out there?

Eberron is a unique enough setting that it really deserves a bespoke adventure. But that adventure would definitely be harder to use in other worlds, so I understand why it isn't likely coming. I was hoping we would get one from KB before he retired his Eberron DMsGuild imprint. But alas.

 

[ersatzphil]

That could be correct, though I think Planescape has had enough people clamoring for it that they would have given it more weight. Spelljammer not as much.

Haven't the adventures been released with a blurb at the beginning on how to run them in any setting out there? I got the feeling that they were avoiding adventures for specific campaign settings and the adventures defaulted to FR because that was the default setting, but were designed to be placeable in any setting.

I think this point of design has changed over the years: ‘Princes of the Apocalypse’ has this - and includes advice on how to run it in Dark Sun! - but I don’t believe most of the 5e campaign books do. That being said, I haven’t read everything for 5e; others might weigh in.

 

[Maxperson]

I think this point of design has changed over the years: ‘Princes of the Apocalypse’ has this - and includes advice on how to run it in Dark Sun! - but I don’t believe most of the 5e campaign books do. That being said, I haven’t read everything for 5e; others might weigh in.

I don't buy them, so I wasn't sure. Thanks!

 

[Micah Sweet]

The funny thing is, they already quietly did a number of retcons of this sort after Tasha's, particularly in Monsters of the Multiverse (but also in the "errata" that came out for books like Volo's before they were rendered Legacy Content). Some more extensive reboot is certainly likely, though (basically what they implied for 2E -> 3E in Die Vecna Die).

I am curious to see if there are any significant contradictions to older Planescape lore in this release, or if it's more like they handled Dragonlance (mostly keeping things vaguely compatible).

I expect there will be, especially since one of the previews from yesterday said they changed the name of some factions explicitly to "remove gendered language".

 

[Micah Sweet]

The funny thing is, they already quietly did a number of retcons of this sort after Tasha's, particularly in Monsters of the Multiverse (but also in the "errata" that came out for books like Volo's before they were rendered Legacy Content). Some more extensive reboot is certainly likely, though (basically what they implied for 2E -> 3E in Die Vecna Die).

I am curious to see if there are any significant contradictions to older Planescape lore in this release, or if it's more like they handled Dragonlance (mostly keeping things vaguely compatible).

Double post.

 

[Maxperson]

Double post.

(sigh) Missed opportunities. This is a Planescape thread. It was a Bytopian post!