D&D (2024) Do you plan to adopt D&D5.5One2024Redux?

Plan to adopt the new core rules?

  • Yep

    Votes: 262 53.0%
  • Nope

    Votes: 232 47.0%

They're based on 5E but they cant use the lore for starters.
Depends on what you mean by "the lore". There's a lot of stuff in the three SRDs (3rd, 3.5, and 5th) and the original/revised/complete Tome of Horrors that very clearly and distinctively originates in D&D, rather than, say, Tunnels & Trolls or Palladium Fantasy. It might not be "the lore" in a deep sense, but "there are ten major kinds of dragons in the world, with these colors, these basic personality traits, these breath weapon types, and living in these environments" is definitely D&D lore.

(I went to a lot of trouble pointing out examples of those things back last year in OGL discussion threads, when all sorts of people were running around saying that the OGL had always been meaningless, a corporate trick, usually quoting the old Copyright Office guidance that "you can't copyright game rules, just their expression". I mean, sure, that's the black-letter law, but if you wound up in court, you'd quickly find out that an otyugh isn't a "game rule", it's a pretty specific expression.)
 

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Don't pretend you're confused and don't understand what people mean when you do fully understand what they mean because you're upset at an RPG company and feel like taking those feelings out on your peers.
I never said I was confused. I'd prefer folks to be more precise, and feel using term "5e" when they mean WotC is a bad habit.
 

I never said I was confused. I'd prefer folks to be more precise, and feel using term "5e" when they mean WotC is a bad habit.
I think it's pretty safe to assume that they mean D&D5e by WotC if they don't specify which other OGL or CC 3PP game they're talking about. I mean, they'd obviously need to be more specific in that case - because there are many 5e related 3pp, and they're all quite different from each other. It's not a slight against them!
 



Huh. We've had what, almost two years of play testing now? When did the first UA come out? I honestly don't remember. goes off to check Google - right August 2022. So, more than two years now.

And this is the first time i've ever heard anyone refer to it as "errata". One does have to kind of wonder what the reasoning behind that would be. Why go two years before referring to a very public play test and a rerelease of the core 3 books as an "errata". Unless, of course, one was trying to play silly buggers semantic games.

Nah, that couldn't possibly be. No one would ever do that right?
 

Sure, sure. I constantly comment on threads that I only have a passing interest in the subject.

Still, I think you'll find from a LOT of the comments... there's a passionate loathing of WotC in a lot of the negative responses (even some of the apathetic ones).
It's because of the name. If they were Fighters of the Coast people wouldn't hate so much.
 

Voted no.

I have no intention of forking over almost 200 euros for some light updates on the game i already have and play. When/if new core rules come online on srd, i'll take a look, see whats up, if there is something i like, i'll use. But don't need complete new 3 book set.

Both me and my group are at the point in life where if it isn't complete new edition, we just don't care that much.
 

Referring to WotC's version of the game simply as "5e" is a pain point for me, whether I know what you mean or not. It's dismissive of all the great work on that game people who aren't WotC have done, and elevates them beyond what I believe they deserve.
For me, "5e" is the name of the game engine. WotC built this engine and made it available via OGL and CC.

WotC and indy publishers create content for this engine.

When I use the term "5e" I mean any content by WotC and others.
 

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