D&D (2024) Comeliness and Representation in Recent DnD Art

[Charlaquin]

Just a note, LegalKimchi is a very good youtuber and his video on this topic that was linked earlier is arguing in favor of the inclusion of the wheelchair accessible dungeon. I also recommend his other videos (I just watched the bioessentialism one, and it was very good).

Good to know, thanks for the recommendation!

 

[Charlaquin]

Just curious: how is "status-quo warrior" any less incendiary a phrase than, "social justice warrior", just on the other end of the political spectrum?

I really am just curious from a logic standpoint.

I suppose it is? I can refrain from using it here if you think it’s inappropriate.

 

[LesserThan]

I’m using reactionary to mean “opposikg political or social liberalization or reform.” Because that’s what the word means.

That is definately not what I was taught it meant in social studies/economics classes nearly 50 years ago.

Words keep changing and I can not keep up anymore.

 

[LesserThan]

What I’m saying is, status-quo warriors often complain that the presence of politics in the game harms their ability to play the game as a form of escapism. Because “politics” (which is generally code for more diverse representation) is, they say, what they are trying to use the game as an escape from.

Never heard of a status quo warrior, nor anyone complain anything breaks their escapism. Just mostly distractions, including combat at times, breaking immersion.

Am I still speaking English I wonder? Are these all internet terms that I should not be expected to instantly know? Do people still use LOL, or BRB?

 

[LesserThan]

I remember this.

I don't remember that.

Google it. Apparently it has to do with Candlekeep Mysteries. Specifically the adventure "The Canopic Being", which was written by Jen Kretchmer. "As an ambulatory wheelchair user, Kretchmer says that is was important to her that her dungeon was a place that she could explore. As such, it’s filled with fantasy elevators (whether they functioned by pulley or by magic, she didn’t say), and ledges are accessible by ramps rather than by stairs." Jen Kretchmer Teases Her Candlekeep Mysteries Adventure: THE CANOPIC BEING

It's one adventure in a collection of one shots. There is nothing about it that detracts from the other adventures or from players playing this adventure with non-wheelchair bound characters. It was an interesting design choice for a one shot. Plenty of stairs in the other one-shots.

What he found. I knew what I was looking for, but not as good as this poster who found the meat of the sandwich.

 

[Thomas Shey]

I would argue that most do. The holdup seems to be a complete rejection of any elements (in this case, art) that so much as acknowledge the second thing.

Though I mean, if you've got some people complaining about something breaking their sense of realism, and other people complaining about the exact same thing breaking their escapism, I'm not sure how closer to the eye of the needle you can thread.

Yeah, those pieces of rope may simply not meet in the middle.

 

[Cadence]

That is definately not what I was taught it meant in social studies/economics classes nearly 50 years ago.

Words keep changing and I can not keep up anymore.

Looking it up so I made sure I wasn't getting confused...

Reactionary - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[LesserThan]

But they are not going to push the envelope too far. They are going to be risk adverse when it comes to what may upset people. They are going to err on the side of accomodation and inclusion.

I am unsure. While the non art discussion here is the push to AI and digital tools and a life style brand under Hasbro, the art could easily go belly up when more copyright theft happens between Hasbro artists or even AI stealing art.

Didn't Hasbro get sued over something in Dragon magazine for copyright violation?

WotC tried to steal the entire Palladium Fantasy rule system before Magic came out, and it even included Moorecock and Lovecraft, so all 3 forced Pete to shut down his TRPG in the 1990s. Wizards of the Coast was named after his attempt at a TRPG.

Maybe they only fail to err on the side of caution, like their good friend Disney.

 

[LesserThan]

I just followed the alerts and they all unmarked after a few, so if I missed a reply, it was not intentional.

 

[Cadence]

I am unsure. While the non art discussion here is the push to AU and digital tools and a life style brand under Hasbro, the art could easily go belly up when more copyright theft happens between Hasbro artists or even AI stealing art.

Didn't Hasbro get sued over something in Dragon magazine for copyright violation?

WotC tried to steal the entire Palladium Fantasy rule system before Magic came out, and it even included Moorecock and Lovecraft, so all 3 forced Pete to shut down his TRPG in the 1990s. Wizards of the Coast was named after his attempt at a TRPG.

Maybe they only fail to err on the side of caution, like their good friend Disney.

I had somehow totally missed the Palladium / WotC thing!

Anyone have a favorite source other than:

Palladium v. WotC Press Release

groups.google.com