D&D General New Interview with Rob Heinsoo About 4E

[Kaiyanwang]

Lol nice.

Also:

* Fighters are spellcasters in 4e (forget what the extreme differences in total build generates, how that references keyword tech, and what the actual play produces)!

* Martial Mind Control is so unrealistic...nothing like that happens ever IRL!

* Warlords shout hands back on (even though no D&D outside of Swords of Sharpness take hands off!) and inspirational replenishing of reserves, fortitude, purpose, ability to carry on is bunk (doesn't happen ever anywhere!)!

* You can't set things on fire in D&D 4e (forget Keyword Fire and rules on Targets and stunting and Say Yes!)!

* Player-authored Quests are not a thing (forget the actual text on the subject and the Say Yes appoach of the game)!

* Fail Forward is EZMode nonsense and that bunk will never become featured in future TTRPGs (lawl?)!

* Skill Challenges don't feature perpetual situation-state change (even though the book's instruction expressly demands them) and are just an exercise in fiction-irrelevant dice rolling where Fighters are doing push-ups to convince kings!

* Noncombat Conflict Resolution frameworks (Skill Challenges) that structures and organizes noncombat scene framing & resolution are just totally artifacts of gamey nonsense (pay no attention to Hit Points and Turn-Based Combat!)

* Forced Movement never happens in actual martial combat (where warriors constantly feint, circle, attack angles, and change levels to impose or compel their opposition to move/duck/sprawl to deal with the attack or feigned attack!)...its gamey nonsense!

I think some of these misinterpret what people actually said. The "mind control" was for powers like Bloody Path, which had on top beholders biting themselves and other nonsense. Any justification for what happened in-game was after the roll was done. Exploration rules ARE lacking, like it or not.
Concerning skill challenges, I presume most people criticized that they didn't work, after several attempts to fix them.

Who is bitter?

Do you think yours sound like a mature reaction to criticism?

 

[Shardstone]

I think some of these misinterpret what people actually said. The "mind control" was for powers like Bloody Path, which had on top beholders biting themselves and other nonsense. Any justification for what happened in-game was after the roll was done. Exploration rules ARE lacking, like it or not.
Concerning skill challenges, I presume most people criticized that they didn't work, after several attempts to fix them.

Do you think yours sound like a mature reaction to criticism?

You know Ive been joking, right? Have you read any of the other comments people have made since that post? Wake up and stop looking for conflict.

 

[Shardstone]

4e is the first edition of dnd without a fighter class.

 

[Kaiyanwang]

You know Ive been joking, right? Have you read any of the other comments people have made since that post? Wake up and stop looking for conflict.

Nope. what you and other were doing was a mockery, because the intent was dismissing heretical opinions. This happened over and over in the thread. What are you doing now is backtracking on that.
And again, if you keep spamming your "jokes", one cannot help thinking you didn't take this well. Which considering the time that passed, I doubt is an healthy mindset - but you do you.

 

[Shardstone]

Nope. what you and other were doing was a mockery, because the intent was dismissing heretical opinions. This happened over and over in the thread. What are you doing now is backtracking on that.

No, Im not. Creating intent for my words is gross. I apologize if my joke offended you, but you need to stop trying to paint me as an antagonizer. Thanks.

 

[Kaiyanwang]

No, Im not. Creating intent for my words is gross. I apologize if my joke offended you, but you need to stop trying to paint me as an antagonizer. Thanks.

I am not offended, just baffled by a complete lack of ability to use counter-arguments instead of mockery, and by the emotional attachment to a failed game after all this time.

 

[Umbran]

I am actually just mimicking people who hate 4E books.

Mod Note:
Hey.

How about you all stop willfully and intentionally mocking people, like, right now. Please and thanks.

 

[Shardstone]

I am not offended, just baffled by a complete lack of ability to use counter-arguments instead of mockery, and by the emotional attachment to a failed game after all this time.

I was never making an argument, and I dont have an emotional attachment to the game. You are being very weirdly aggressive right now, and I earnestly have no idea what you are talking about. Are you replying to the right poster??

 

[Umbran]

No, Im not. Creating intent for my words is gross. I apologize if my joke offended you, but you need to stop trying to paint me as an antagonizer. Thanks.

Mod Note:
"I am sorry if my joke offended you," is a non-apology, placing blame on the offended party.

Unless you want to claim that you lack the native wit to realize that what you were doing was going to antagonize people, or that somehow that result was hidden from you, you are stuck with the situation that you knew it was gonna happen, and you did this anyway.

So, stop willfully doing things that antagonize and mock others. Now. Thanks.

 

[Shardstone]

Yeah I didn't know that my light joke was going to be taken so incredibly harshly. I do actually, sincerely apologize because the intent was for a little laugh, not this. I will not be back in this thread