D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Sorcerer"

[Vael]

I'm glad we got "spell rage", ie Innate Sorcery to stay, I think it does a lot to strengthen the core gameplay of the Sorcerer. I was happy with most of the last UA, so I'm looking forward to seeing my favourite class get a solid glowup.

 

[GarrettKP]

Heh. The Ranger Reveal thread in this forum has almost 1000 posts, while the second highest is paladin at a little over 400, and then all the rest drop to the 200's or less. It's definitely a hot topic.

And the discussion is perfectly fine. But it should stay in the Ranger forums, both here and in spaces like Reddit and YouTube. It bleeding over into other class discussions is frustrating.

 

[lall]

So we’re stuck with the nerfed version of Arcane Apotheosis. My bet is the cleric’s UA capstone will stick, so they’ll be the only class that can avoid the 1/3 chance of losing Wish. However, maybe that 1/3 chance is gone for every class in the new version of Wish.

 

[Parmandur]

OK, so:

• Main Iconic, Elf woman
• Aberrant, Dragonborn
• Clockwork, Dwarf man
• Draconic, Human man
• Wild, Halfling woman, prosthetic arm

Art piece with iconic Elf Sorcerer and Rieflinf Bard:

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I like that they now get mwtamagic when they get font of magic. Always felt weird to stagger it

I really hope they increased the amount of metamagic options. Otherwise the level 7 feature could prove to be very poor. Especially if you chose an option that could stack with other metamagic anyway.

 

[mellored]

I'm not entirely sure what the sorcerer's identity is supposed to be when standing beside both the warlock and the wizard.

Wizard can prepare spells.
Sorcerer can modify them.

2024 emphasize that a little bit better than 2014, but it still seems like it should of just been a level 1 choice.

Mage 1
Arcane Source: choose one of the following
*Study: your spell casting modifier is Intelligence. You get a book that you can cast rituals from. Durring a short rest you can prepare new spells.
*Innate: your spell casting modifier is Charisma. You gain +1 to your spell DC and spell attack rolls.
*War: your spell casting modifier is Strength. you gain proficiency in media armor and martials weapons.

 

[Neonchameleon]

They consider the Wild Magic table as the "extended" list, it seems. I'd wager you're right, something like Divine Soul may not get them because they can pick Cleric spells.

I wouldn't. One thing subclass spell lists give is more casting options. If Divine Soul Sorcerers don't get extra spells known then opening a bigger store doesn't do much when they've little money to spend.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

I think it would have been cool if some of the sorcerer features from the early 5e playtests would have come back.

I think that I like the improvements, but it's hard to tell. I'm not entirely sure what the sorcerer's identity is supposed to be when standing beside both the warlock and the wizard.

It looks like they're doubling down on the metamagic thing, and thematic spells.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Doesn't say anything, I think it's still Bards get their own spell list. Because with the pick a list option, I expressed a lot of disappointment in that if I wanted Illusion and Enchantment spells, I'd lose access to important spells like Cure Wounds and Healing Word.

They listed the Arcane Spell casting classes and compared the Sorcerer to them and kept leaving the Bard out, despite Bards being the closest to the Sorcerer in terms of Spellcasting, and you think it means nothing?

 

[mellored]

I like that they now get mwtamagic when they get font of magic. Always felt weird to stagger it

I really hope they increased the amount of metamagic options. Otherwise the level 7 feature could prove to be very poor. Especially if you chose an option that could stack with other metamagic anyway.

As of the playtest
2 at level 2
+2 at level 10
+2 at level 17
=6
With 10 total to choose from.

The 2 that stack are both rerolls (damage and to-hit)