D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Cleric"

[MarkB]

I wonder whether Divine Intervention overrides the spell's casting time. If so, it'd be a great way to lay down a quick hallow.

 

[Arilyn]

Yeah. I'll be keeping the old version. "Cast another cleric spell you could already cast" doesn't seem very much like a divine intervention miracle to me.

I agree. Calling on Divine Intervention means the character is calling for help and cannot control the outcome. Choosing a spell is not this. Now the old DI wasn't the best and could have used tweaking but I don't like the new one.

JC says ability is no longer "Mother May I?" And I am left sputtering... but it's in the name. Will you help me, Deity?

 

[Weiley31]

That seems like an insane change to me. Mass Heal in 5E gives the caster 700 hit points to distribute.

The high level Cleric encountering an army of enemies weak to Mass Heal.

 

[Bitbrain]

The high level Cleric encountering an army of enemies weak to Mass Heal.
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Or as my home group puts it:

“You know something awesome is about to happen when someone OTHER than the bard starts singing boss music”

 

[Weiley31]

Yeah. I'll be keeping the old version. "Cast another cleric spell you could already cast" doesn't seem very much like a divine intervention miracle to me.

I say the Old Version could be jury rigged and used as an option if your PC Cleric has a high Piety score with their Deity. The 2024 version is the standard version that all Clerics learn to do in Religion school. 2014 Divine Intervention is when you get that parting the Red Sea style of intervention.

 

[Kurotowa]

A few good spells that work well with Divine Intervention (assuming they haven't changed), due to having long casting times and/or consumed expensive components:

Prayer of Healing has been changed to give the benefits of a Short Rest, but with a 10 minute casting time. Can you Divine Intervention an instant Prayer of Healing in the middle of combat, immediately recharging half the party's class features? Can party members spend HD for healing too, making it an expensive but powerful party wide heal? Or will there be a clause added to Prayer of Healing or Short Rests to head off a mid-combat usage?

 

[Weiley31]

The Article

https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1767-2024-cleric-vs-2014-cleric-whats-new

I do like the patch update where if your using a Domain that isn't in the 2024 PHB, you can pretty much use the "Pick your choice of Divine Strikes/Cantrips Blaster buff for when you reach that feature with the 2024 Cleric."

 

[Parmandur]

I do like the patch update where if your using a Domain that isn't in the 2024 PHB, you can pretty much use the "Pick your choice of Divine Strikes/Cantrips Blaster buff for when you reach that feature with the 2024 Cleric."

"Because the 2024 Player’s Handbook is designed to work with previously published D&D fifth edition sourcebooks, if you’re using a subclass found in an older book that has either feature as an ability, you only select one option for your 2024 Cleric."

And no doubt that will be in the PHB itself. And that covers the biggest gap for.using older Subclasses.

 

[Chaosmancer]

Bringing someone back from the dead, even if it's just revivify, still screams divine intervention to me.

Bringing back the dead has become somewhat trivialized in the game. Doing this helps bring back some of its wonder and awe.

Yeah. I mean sure, it isn't "and the clouds parted and the Divine Fist of Judgement rendered the mountain to a crater upon the earth" but... most DMs didn't do that anyways. And since it was so unreliable, I rarely had anyone asking for anything big if they even used it.

 

[Weiley31]

"Because the 2024 Player’s Handbook is designed to work with previously published D&D fifth edition sourcebooks, if you’re using a subclass found in an older book that has either feature as an ability, you only select one option for your 2024 Cleric."

And no doubt that will be in the PHB itself. And that covers the biggest gap for.using older Subclasses.

I wonder if that patch update is STRICTLY for the Cleric or if somehow, outside of the Tasha Rune Knight, it can be applied to other older subclasses for other classes.


I am aware of the one previous clip from Crawford mentions about combat grinding a bit of you did 2014 subclass features with the 2024 version or something.