D&D (2024) 2024 Player's Handbook reveal: "New Bard"

[Gradine]

The perfect class doesn't exi-

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Like I said, a bit unclear in the video, but going by UA6, it was "AND".

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So bard spell list only up to level 5?

 

[RoughCoronet0]

I wonder If when Fey touched and Shadow touched are reprinted if they will have the same restrictions.

I could see it going either way, since you are already limited to two schools to pick your single level 1 spell from.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

The perfect class doesn't exi-

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The illustration is uncanny though.

 

[Veltharis ap Rylix]

So bard spell list only up to level 5?

That was from when they were experimenting with unified spell lists and the bard chose one (Arcane, Divine, or Primal) to start with.

They've since reverted that, so Bard has a distinct class spell list again now, which would presumably include anything they want kept "bard exclusive" regardless of level. They just ALSO get the full cleric, druid, and wizard lists to choose from once they hit level 10.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

That was from when they were experimenting with unified spell lists and the bard chose one (Arcane, Divine, or Primal) to start with.

They've since reverted that, so Bard has a distinct class spell list again now, which would presumably include anything they want kept "bard exclusive" regardless of level. They just ALSO get the full cleric, druid, and wizard lists to choose from once they hit level 10.

Yes. But does the bard have exclusive spells? If not, they can save the space and not do a list for level 6+ at all. Because they have way more spells to chose from anyway.

 

[Veltharis ap Rylix]

Yes. But does the bard have exclusive spells? If not, they can save the space and not do a list for level 6+ at all. Because they have way more spells to chose from anyway.

A cursory search of Beyond shows that Vicious Mockery and Power Word Heal are bard exclusive, at least as of the 2014 ruleset. Hardly a comprehensive list, but a couple of examples from opposite ends of the spell level spectrum, so that would imply bards will probably have some spells unique to them.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

With the comment on the valor bard picture about casting with focus and shield in hand, that you are always allowed to add a focus to the component list, even if it does not specify m. That makes a lot of features in subclasses retroactively useful (spirit bard e. g.)

 

[UngeheuerLich]

A cursory search of Beyond shows that Vicious Mockery and Power Word Heal are bard exclusive, at least as of the 2014 ruleset. Hardly a comprehensive list, but a couple of examples from opposite ends of the spell level spectrum, so that would imply bards will probably have some spells unique to their list.

Ok, so maybe it is a very very short list then.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Base Bard Class Notes

• Still exists (Sorry @Snarf Zagyg)

sigh

Well, I got Greyhawk. I suppose I should be generous, and say that I'm happy for people, yada yada yada ....

HA HA! No.

As we all know, there are only two things I truly despise in the world- those who are intolerant of other people's choices in roleplaying games, and people who play bards.