D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

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The recent book The Making of Original Dungeons & Dragons 1970-1977 talks about the early years of D&D. In the book, authors Jon Peterson and Jason Tondro talk about the way the game, and its writers, approached certain issues. Not surprisingly, this revelation received aggressive "pushback" on social media because, well, that sort of thing does--in fact, one designer who worked with Gygax at the time labelled it "slanderous".

D&D historian Ben Riggs--author of Slaying the Dragon--delved into the facts. Note that the below was posted on Twitter, in that format, not as an article.

D&D Co-Creator Gary Gygax was Sexist. Talking About it is Key to Preserving his Legacy.

The internet has been rending its clothes and gnashing its teeth over the introduction to an instant classic of TTRPG history, The Making of Original D&D 1970-1977. Published by Wizards of the Coast, it details the earliest days of D&D’s creation using amazing primary source materials.

Why then has the response been outrage from various corners of the internet? Well authors Jon Peterson and Jason Tondro mention that early D&D made light of slavery, disparaged women, and gave Hindu deities hit points. They also repeated Wizard’s disclaimer for legacy content which states:"These depictions were wrong then and are wrong today. This content is presented as it was originally created, because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming these prejudices never existed."

In response to this, an army of grognards swarmed social media to bite their shields and bellow. Early D&D author Rob Kuntz described Peterson and Tondro’s work as “slanderous.” On his Castle Oldskull blog, Kent David Kelly called it “disparagement.” These critics are accusing Peterson and Tondro of dishonesty. Lying, not to put too fine a point on it.So, are they lying? Are they making stuff up about Gary Gygax and early D&D?

Well, let's look at a specific example of what Peterson and Tondro describe as “misogyny “ from 1975's Greyhawk. Greyhawk was the first supplement ever produced for D&D. Written by Gary Gygax and Rob Kuntz, the same Rob Kuntz who claimed slander above, it was a crucial text in the history of the game. For example, it debuted the thief character class. It also gave the game new dragons, among them the King of Lawful Dragons and the Queen of Chaotic Dragons. The male dragon is good, and female dragon is evil. (See Appendix 1 below for more.)

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It is a repetition of the old trope that male power is inherently good, and female power is inherently evil. (Consider the connotations of the words witch and wizard, with witches being evil by definition, for another example.)

Now so-called defenders of Gygax and Kuntz will say that my reading of the above text makes me a fool who wouldn’t know dragon’s breath from a virtue signal. I am ruining D&D with my woke wokeness. Gygax and Kuntz were just building a fun game, and decades later, Peterson and Tondro come along to crap on their work by screeching about misogyny.

(I would also point out that as we are all white men of a certain age talking about misogyny, the worst we can expect is to be flamed online. Women often doing the same thing get rape or death threats.)

Critics of their work would say that Peterson and Tondro are reading politics into D&D. Except that when we return to the Greyhawk text, we see that it was actually Gygax and Kuntz who put “politics” into D&D.

The text itself comments on the fact that the lawful dragon is male, and the chaotic one is female. Gygax and Kuntz wrote: “Women’s lib may make whatever they wish from the foregoing.”


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The intent is clear. The female is a realm of chaos and evil, so of course they made their chaotic evil dragon a queen.

Yes, Gygax and Kuntz are making a game, but it is a game whose co-creator explicitly wrote into the rules that feminine power—perhaps even female equality—is by nature evil. There is little room for any other interpretation.

The so-called defenders of Gygax may now say that he was a man of his time, he didn’t know better, or some such. If only someone had told him women were people too in 1975! Well, Gygax was criticized for this fact of D&D at the time. And he left us his response.

Writing in EUROPA, a European fanzine, Gygax said:“I have been accused of being a nasty old sexist-male-Chauvinist-pig, for the wording in D&D isn’t what it should be. There should be more emphasis on the female role, more non-gendered names, and so forth."

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"I thought perhaps these folks were right and considered adding women in the ‘Raping and Pillaging[’] section, in the ‘Whores and Tavern Wenches’ chapter, the special magical part dealing with ‘Hags and Crones’...and thought perhaps of adding an appendix on ‘Medieval Harems, Slave Girls, and Going Viking’. Damn right I am sexist. It doesn’t matter to me if women get paid as much as men, get jobs traditionally male, and shower in the men’s locker room."

"They can jolly well stay away from wargaming in droves for all I care. I’ve seen many a good wargame and wargamer spoiled thanks to the fair sex. I’ll detail that if anyone wishes.”


So just to summarize here, Gygax wrote misogyny into the D&D rules. When this was raised with him as an issue at the time, his response was to offer to put rules on rape and sex slavery into D&D.

The outrage online directed at Peterson and Tondro is not only entirely misplaced and disproportional, and perhaps even dishonest in certain cases...

Part 2: D&D Co-Creator Gary Gygax was Sexist. Talking About it is Key to Preserving his Legacy....it is also directly harming the legacies of Gygax, Arneson, Kuntz and the entire first generation of genius game designers our online army of outraged grognards purport to defend.

How? Let me show you.The D&D player base is getting more diverse in every measurable way, including age, gender, sexual orientation, and race. To cite a few statistics, 81% of D&D players are Millenials or Gen Z, and 39% are women. This diversity is incredible, and not because the diversity is some blessed goal unto itself. Rather, the increasing diversity of D&D proves the vigor of the TTRPG medium. Like Japanese rap music or Soviet science fiction, the transportation of a medium across cultures, nations, and genders proves that it is an important method for exploring the human condition. And while TTRPGs are a game, they are also clearly an important method for exploring the human condition. The fact the TTRPG fanbase is no longer solely middle-aged Midwestern cis men of middle European descent...

...the fact that non-binary blerds and Indigenous trans women and fat Polish-American geeks like me and people from every bed of the human vegetable garden ...

find meaning in a game created by two white guys from the Midwest is proof that Gygax and Arneson were geniuses who heaved human civilization forward, even if only by a few feet.

So, as a community, how do we deal with the ugly prejudices of our hobby’s co-creator who also baked them into the game we love? We could pretend there is no problem at all, and say that anyone who mentions the problem is a liar. There is no misogyny to see. There is no **** and there is no stink, and anyone who says there is naughty word on your sneakers is lying and is just trying to embarrass you.

I wonder how that will go? Will all these new D&D fans decide that maybe D&D isn’t for them? They know the stink of misogyny, just like they know **** when they smell it. To say it isn’t there is an insult to their intelligence. If they left the hobby over this, it would leave our community smaller, poorer, and suggest that the great work of Gygax, Arneson, Kuntz, and the other early luminaries on D&D was perhaps not so great after all…

We could take the route of Disney and Song of the South. Wizards could remove all the PDFs of early D&D from DriveThruRPG. They could refuse to ever reprint this material again. Hide it. Bury it. Erase it all with copyright law and lawyers. Yet no matter how deeply you bury the past, it always tends to come back up to the surface again. Heck, there are whole podcast series about that. And what will all these new D&D fans think when they realize that a corporation tried to hide its own mistakes from them?

Again, maybe they decide D&D isn’t the game for them. Or maybe when someone tells you there is **** on your shoe, you say thanks, clean it off, and move on.

We honor the old books, but when they tell a reader they are a lesser human being, we should acknowledge that is not the D&D of 2024. Something like...

“Hey reader, we see you in all your wondrous multiplicity of possibility, and if we were publishing this today, it wouldn’t contain messages and themes telling some of you that you are less than others. So we just want to warn you. That stuff’s in there.”

Y’know, something like that legacy content warning they put on all those old PDFs on DriveThruRPG. And when we see something bigoted in old D&D, we talk about it. It lets the new, broad, and deep tribe of D&D know that we do not want bigotry in D&D today. Talking about it welcomes the entire human family into the hobby.To do anything less is to damn D&D to darkness. It hobbles its growth, gates its community, denies the world the joy of the game, and denies its creators their due. D&D’s creators were visionary game designers. They were also people, and people are kinda ****** up. So a necessary step in making D&D the sort of cultural pillar that it deserves to be is to name its bigotries and prejudices when you see them. Failure to do so hurts the game by shrinking our community and therefore shrinking the legacy of its creators.

Appendix 1: Yeah, I know Chaos isn’t the same as Evil in OD&D.

But I would also point out as nerdily as possible that on pg. 9 of Book 1 of OD&D, under “Character Alignment, Including Various Monsters and Creatures,” Evil High Priests are included under the “Chaos” heading, along with the undead. So I would put to you that Gygax did see a relationship between Evil and Chaos at the time.

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Did you do history st University?

It was basically hammered into us to remember tgat historical sources were written in a different time.

And then later people goes along and inject their own opinionsnto it often twisting what was written an the context it was written.

Gary wrote what he dismissed and it was sexist now. And then. Reason he didn't get much push back on it was a combination of tge tine frame and where he wrote it. Not many people saw it tgevones tvat dud were either fibe with it or wouldn't think to much of it. He probably didn't get much pyshvack because it was thec1970s. He probably had those opinions due to his formative years in the 1940s and how he was raised. Parents were HWs apparently. He your stereotypical OK boomer.

What we don't have is any data indicating how many people thought that way specifically. We do gave data ondicat8ng the liberals around that tine were routed including the popular vote. So his views while problematic today van then we're only problematic to certain people. We xant give exact number as we lack that data. It was mire tgan 0% less tgan 100.

I'll use another example n classic. Slavery was a moral quandary fro thongs lije philosophers. Some did argue it was immoral it still took centuries for it to be more or less abolished. It did not trickle down to thehoi polloi. But we have less than 1% surrviving literature and no one recorded what the Hoi poloi thought.

It's nit exactly controversial to look at the events of the 1960s which would gave been very recent. National guard was shooting University students, political assassination etc. A very large chunk of the country disagreed. Who's right or wrong doesn't really matter I'm not making a moral argument.

It shouldn't be to controversial though to say his upbringing and environment in his formative years influenced his world view and that his world view was more accepted in 1970 vs 2024.

Make an RPG with elements of of that in it eg the random harlots table. Biggest RPG ever until post 1015-17 also says a lot so draw your own conclusions.
Well, the game was very popular for a time.

How common was it for folks to be upset about the sexism?

If it was less salient then that explains a lot about a different time. No excuses per se just context.

Or think about movies then as compared to now and what was popular—-how sexism was present and such.

I don’t think you defend sexism but it is not honest to say the times and society at the origin of the game were the same as they are now in terms of what was generally accepted—-generally!—-and just our in the open.

Of course things were different. The disclaimer acknowledges it too. It does not make anything ok but let’s be honest.
 
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Well, the game was very popular for a time.

How common was it for folks to be upset about the sexism?

If it was less salient then that explains a lot about a different time. No excuses per se just context.

I mean, it would... if he didn't get enough pushback that he felt it warranted speaking out against. This whole idea that "but people were just more sexist back then" misses that he was sexist enough to get enough pushback within a small community that he felt the need to directly address it, and did so by proclaiming himself a sexist!

This whole "different time" schtick doesn't hold up to the event we are actually talking about.
 

Well, the game was very popular for a time.

How common was it for folks to be upset about the sexism?

If it was less salient then that explains a lot about a different time. No excuses per se just context.

One can also look at other contemporary works as well. Revenge of the Nerds comes to mind. I tried rewatching Police Academy. It's not good and gets worse each movie (think I made it to the 3rd)

Sure some people disagreed but I'm talking about what's acceptable for consumer and pulp culture entertainment.
 
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I mean, it would... if he didn't get enough pushback that he felt it warranted speaking out against. This whole idea that "but people were just more sexist back then" misses that he was sexist enough to get enough pushback within a small community that he felt the need to directly address it, and did so by proclaiming himself a sexist!

This whole "different time" schtick doesn't hold up to the event we are actually talking about.
I am not defending anything. I don’t have a schtick.

Just intellectually dishonest to take history without context and suggest it was so bad that it was not partially a product of different norms.

I play the game with my daughters so I am not pining for less respect for women. Just responding to zard’s comment.

Carry on.
 

Revenge of the Nerds is a horrible, sexist, racist, homophobic, and frankly disturbing comedy.

Now tell me which of the characters proudly proclaimed themselves to be a Sexist before going on a rant about women being weak and sexual objects rather than people.

Sexist attitudes exist even to the modern day. But it takes a PARTICULAR kind of person to get called out, double down, and proudly proclaim themself to be a bigot.

That's not normal now, it wasn't normal 10 years ago, it wasn't normal 30 years ago, it wasn't normal 100 years ago. That's not "Average Normal Sexism for the 70s." It's something above and beyond. Implicit sexism? Common. Explicit sexism? Rare.
 

Nope. One can also look at other contemporary works as well. Revenge of the Nerds cones to mind. I tried rewatching Police Academy. It's not good and gets worse each movie (think I made it to the 3rd)

Sure some people disagreed but I'm talking about what's acceptable for consumer and pulp culture entertainment.
Of course! It’s almost delusional to not acknowledge we don’t tolerate the same things now
 


With all the talk trying to justify GG words, do we believe he did not know he was being an ass?

Like, it was so common that vilifying women in a game of make pretend elves was a pretty neutral, even normal, thing to say? You know, since it wasn't the majority on gamers that pushed back against him? He honestly thought his words were the words of a good, decent and caring person?

No. He knew full well he was being bad. He did not care. We can see from his answer in the Europa magazine; he was a petty, egoistical libertarian, a biodeterminist who did not care who he hurt as long as he felt good about it.
 

I mean, it would... if he didn't get enough pushback that he felt it warranted speaking out against. This whole idea that "but people were just more sexist back then" misses that he was sexist enough to get enough pushback within a small community that he felt the need to directly address it, and did so by proclaiming himself a sexist!

This whole "different time" schtick doesn't hold up to the event we are actually talking about.

People are also cherry picking those people who did say something. OD&D didn't sell very well but it wasn't because of the sexism. Once1E blew up elements of it were right there in the books vs an obscure interview.

More context when I started playing Gary was just a name on a book. Barely knew 2E existed (we used 80s stuff we found). Didn't know what a fanzibe was, the differences between 1E,2E, B/X or anything older than 1E. Didn't know about Dragon or Dungeon magazines, didn't even have a 1E phb.

Had to figure out what a class was via OA and UA. Basically I'm not a fan of Garry's D&D.
 

So... no more history of D&D books ever again?

At least not factual ones that involve things about what was written in it or about it by it's creator because those words are too damning for us to handle without eating sashimi made from the salmon of discontent.

Books fine might not be the best idea to go on Twitter to correct people about their comments. Even if you're objectively correct.

I'm sure it had nothing to do with drumming up a headline. If you actually care about what's going on boycott Twitter don't use it, don't install it don't interact with it. Let it die.
 

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