D&D Historian Benn Riggs On Gary Gygax & Sexism

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The recent book The Making of Original Dungeons & Dragons 1970-1977 talks about the early years of D&D. In the book, authors Jon Peterson and Jason Tondro talk about the way the game, and its writers, approached certain issues. Not surprisingly, this revelation received aggressive "pushback" on social media because, well, that sort of thing does--in fact, one designer who worked with Gygax at the time labelled it "slanderous".

D&D historian Ben Riggs--author of Slaying the Dragon--delved into the facts. Note that the below was posted on Twitter, in that format, not as an article.

D&D Co-Creator Gary Gygax was Sexist. Talking About it is Key to Preserving his Legacy.

The internet has been rending its clothes and gnashing its teeth over the introduction to an instant classic of TTRPG history, The Making of Original D&D 1970-1977. Published by Wizards of the Coast, it details the earliest days of D&D’s creation using amazing primary source materials.

Why then has the response been outrage from various corners of the internet? Well authors Jon Peterson and Jason Tondro mention that early D&D made light of slavery, disparaged women, and gave Hindu deities hit points. They also repeated Wizard’s disclaimer for legacy content which states:"These depictions were wrong then and are wrong today. This content is presented as it was originally created, because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming these prejudices never existed."

In response to this, an army of grognards swarmed social media to bite their shields and bellow. Early D&D author Rob Kuntz described Peterson and Tondro’s work as “slanderous.” On his Castle Oldskull blog, Kent David Kelly called it “disparagement.” These critics are accusing Peterson and Tondro of dishonesty. Lying, not to put too fine a point on it.So, are they lying? Are they making stuff up about Gary Gygax and early D&D?

Well, let's look at a specific example of what Peterson and Tondro describe as “misogyny “ from 1975's Greyhawk. Greyhawk was the first supplement ever produced for D&D. Written by Gary Gygax and Rob Kuntz, the same Rob Kuntz who claimed slander above, it was a crucial text in the history of the game. For example, it debuted the thief character class. It also gave the game new dragons, among them the King of Lawful Dragons and the Queen of Chaotic Dragons. The male dragon is good, and female dragon is evil. (See Appendix 1 below for more.)

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It is a repetition of the old trope that male power is inherently good, and female power is inherently evil. (Consider the connotations of the words witch and wizard, with witches being evil by definition, for another example.)

Now so-called defenders of Gygax and Kuntz will say that my reading of the above text makes me a fool who wouldn’t know dragon’s breath from a virtue signal. I am ruining D&D with my woke wokeness. Gygax and Kuntz were just building a fun game, and decades later, Peterson and Tondro come along to crap on their work by screeching about misogyny.

(I would also point out that as we are all white men of a certain age talking about misogyny, the worst we can expect is to be flamed online. Women often doing the same thing get rape or death threats.)

Critics of their work would say that Peterson and Tondro are reading politics into D&D. Except that when we return to the Greyhawk text, we see that it was actually Gygax and Kuntz who put “politics” into D&D.

The text itself comments on the fact that the lawful dragon is male, and the chaotic one is female. Gygax and Kuntz wrote: “Women’s lib may make whatever they wish from the foregoing.”


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The intent is clear. The female is a realm of chaos and evil, so of course they made their chaotic evil dragon a queen.

Yes, Gygax and Kuntz are making a game, but it is a game whose co-creator explicitly wrote into the rules that feminine power—perhaps even female equality—is by nature evil. There is little room for any other interpretation.

The so-called defenders of Gygax may now say that he was a man of his time, he didn’t know better, or some such. If only someone had told him women were people too in 1975! Well, Gygax was criticized for this fact of D&D at the time. And he left us his response.

Writing in EUROPA, a European fanzine, Gygax said:“I have been accused of being a nasty old sexist-male-Chauvinist-pig, for the wording in D&D isn’t what it should be. There should be more emphasis on the female role, more non-gendered names, and so forth."

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"I thought perhaps these folks were right and considered adding women in the ‘Raping and Pillaging[’] section, in the ‘Whores and Tavern Wenches’ chapter, the special magical part dealing with ‘Hags and Crones’...and thought perhaps of adding an appendix on ‘Medieval Harems, Slave Girls, and Going Viking’. Damn right I am sexist. It doesn’t matter to me if women get paid as much as men, get jobs traditionally male, and shower in the men’s locker room."

"They can jolly well stay away from wargaming in droves for all I care. I’ve seen many a good wargame and wargamer spoiled thanks to the fair sex. I’ll detail that if anyone wishes.”


So just to summarize here, Gygax wrote misogyny into the D&D rules. When this was raised with him as an issue at the time, his response was to offer to put rules on rape and sex slavery into D&D.

The outrage online directed at Peterson and Tondro is not only entirely misplaced and disproportional, and perhaps even dishonest in certain cases...

Part 2: D&D Co-Creator Gary Gygax was Sexist. Talking About it is Key to Preserving his Legacy....it is also directly harming the legacies of Gygax, Arneson, Kuntz and the entire first generation of genius game designers our online army of outraged grognards purport to defend.

How? Let me show you.The D&D player base is getting more diverse in every measurable way, including age, gender, sexual orientation, and race. To cite a few statistics, 81% of D&D players are Millenials or Gen Z, and 39% are women. This diversity is incredible, and not because the diversity is some blessed goal unto itself. Rather, the increasing diversity of D&D proves the vigor of the TTRPG medium. Like Japanese rap music or Soviet science fiction, the transportation of a medium across cultures, nations, and genders proves that it is an important method for exploring the human condition. And while TTRPGs are a game, they are also clearly an important method for exploring the human condition. The fact the TTRPG fanbase is no longer solely middle-aged Midwestern cis men of middle European descent...

...the fact that non-binary blerds and Indigenous trans women and fat Polish-American geeks like me and people from every bed of the human vegetable garden ...

find meaning in a game created by two white guys from the Midwest is proof that Gygax and Arneson were geniuses who heaved human civilization forward, even if only by a few feet.

So, as a community, how do we deal with the ugly prejudices of our hobby’s co-creator who also baked them into the game we love? We could pretend there is no problem at all, and say that anyone who mentions the problem is a liar. There is no misogyny to see. There is no **** and there is no stink, and anyone who says there is naughty word on your sneakers is lying and is just trying to embarrass you.

I wonder how that will go? Will all these new D&D fans decide that maybe D&D isn’t for them? They know the stink of misogyny, just like they know **** when they smell it. To say it isn’t there is an insult to their intelligence. If they left the hobby over this, it would leave our community smaller, poorer, and suggest that the great work of Gygax, Arneson, Kuntz, and the other early luminaries on D&D was perhaps not so great after all…

We could take the route of Disney and Song of the South. Wizards could remove all the PDFs of early D&D from DriveThruRPG. They could refuse to ever reprint this material again. Hide it. Bury it. Erase it all with copyright law and lawyers. Yet no matter how deeply you bury the past, it always tends to come back up to the surface again. Heck, there are whole podcast series about that. And what will all these new D&D fans think when they realize that a corporation tried to hide its own mistakes from them?

Again, maybe they decide D&D isn’t the game for them. Or maybe when someone tells you there is **** on your shoe, you say thanks, clean it off, and move on.

We honor the old books, but when they tell a reader they are a lesser human being, we should acknowledge that is not the D&D of 2024. Something like...

“Hey reader, we see you in all your wondrous multiplicity of possibility, and if we were publishing this today, it wouldn’t contain messages and themes telling some of you that you are less than others. So we just want to warn you. That stuff’s in there.”

Y’know, something like that legacy content warning they put on all those old PDFs on DriveThruRPG. And when we see something bigoted in old D&D, we talk about it. It lets the new, broad, and deep tribe of D&D know that we do not want bigotry in D&D today. Talking about it welcomes the entire human family into the hobby.To do anything less is to damn D&D to darkness. It hobbles its growth, gates its community, denies the world the joy of the game, and denies its creators their due. D&D’s creators were visionary game designers. They were also people, and people are kinda ****** up. So a necessary step in making D&D the sort of cultural pillar that it deserves to be is to name its bigotries and prejudices when you see them. Failure to do so hurts the game by shrinking our community and therefore shrinking the legacy of its creators.

Appendix 1: Yeah, I know Chaos isn’t the same as Evil in OD&D.

But I would also point out as nerdily as possible that on pg. 9 of Book 1 of OD&D, under “Character Alignment, Including Various Monsters and Creatures,” Evil High Priests are included under the “Chaos” heading, along with the undead. So I would put to you that Gygax did see a relationship between Evil and Chaos at the time.

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Why were people like that back then? Were they just questionable people or a product of the times?

For example, if I were born back then, would I be the same? Or would I think as I do now, ie. that everyone deserves equal respect regardless of gender, race, etc. and everyone has a place in gaming?

Just trying to grapple with how much resentment to feel towards the creators of the hobby.
Maybe it's more a factoid to know - he did create the foundations of a game I like, but he had also views that I don't share, views that maybe were more common at the time, but ultimately excluded and harmed people. In the end, he's dead now, and there isn't really much he can do for or against the hobby anymore.

Maybe the lesson is to remember that the hobby doesn't "protect" you from having such views, just because we're rolelplayers doesn't mean we all think the same.

Personally, I will not positively reinforce or support views that cause harm in my game, and will encourage other players to do the same.
 

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I agree with this.

That is something at least :)

So are your questions designed to attack or are they honest questions about whether it's been peer reviewed? Maybe if you contacted him or did your own research you'd find out how the book was written? Is that not valuable to you?

These are honest questions. My pet peeve is sources get held up in these discussions that often don’t seem like real history books to me. But it looks like I was wrong about Peterson because I was judging from the first edition. The second edition is put out by MIT and they do peer review (at least that is my understanding). So presumably the second edition has undergone the additional vetting I was talking about. Which I would say makes it a reliable history source


Do you believe that Jon Peterson would be part of that discourse? A large number of the people involved with this era of the game's history have already passed away, and he's one of the few people to have approached this subject with the level of rigor you desire to have spoken with many of them firsthand. I would argue that your pet peeve is missing the forest for the trees.

Given that I was incorrect and that he is published by a peer reviewed press in the second edition yes he should be part of that discourse. I do still think we are in the early phases as I would expect other historians to build off his work and st times challenge it. But definitely on Playing at the World, I was wrong

I think the first generation of historians tackling this are going to have a hard find separating their experiences coming of age in the hobby from the topic so we should read anything written by people my age, or older or a little younger, with that in kind. That isn’t a knock on Peterson, more something for us to consider when we read these sources. I was even instructed by one history professor to avoid writing about topics that occurred in your lifetime. That is not a view everyone in history takes, it may be taking things too far even, but it does bring up an important concern. Gygax and company were still around when I got into gaming, so were I a historian I think it would be hard for me to truly objective writing about the early days of the hobby. I think anyone writing history of D&D who is heavily invested in the hobby needs to weigh that in their analysis
 

What have you done to answer your own questions and concerns?
This. And it's been mentioned before. @Bedrockgames, harping on about whether or not a book should be considered a reputable history should begin with doing your own legwork. In point of fact, there are many reputable history texts that were not written by people with PhDs who teach at university. More so than in many other academic fields. And there are a fair few histories written by professors with PhDs that are not considered reputable.

So it behooves reader to do a little legwork. First off, read the text yourself. Examine, in particular, the notes and citations. What is the author's reputation? If the text has been extensively peer reviewed, then that's great, but it doesn't always happen, especially in a new, niche area. It's not like there's a Journal of TTRPG History to tender submissions. But you can look for reviews and reactions from acknowledged experts in the field.

Rather than just asking other people in an online forum and beating the dead horse, find out your own answer. We all understand that not all histories are equal. This isn't some revelation. Assess the books yourself. Look into Peterson's reputation, and that of his books. If you then think this is not credible history because X,Y and Z, come back and make your case.

Otherwise, all your posts amount to, "Maybe Jon Peterson isn't a real historian." Thank you for the insight.
 

Related to the subject of what is "history"...

One person that I want to defend a little bit is Rob Kuntz. Because to him, this whole thing isn't history, it's the story of his life and his friend. I will be the first to admit that I don't agree with Kuntz's criticisms of the book, and I believe his memories of Gary are not objective. But we should not expect them to be. We should take his views and opinions for what they are. We should respect them and consider them to be a part of the history, not a critique of the history.

It bothers me that Kuntz's name in the OP is the same paragraph with Kent David Kelly, as if the two are equal. They're not. They come from completely different places and have very different motivations. It bothers me that Kuntz's words are being used to fuel defense of sexism. I don't know Rob personally, but I've been in some of the same forums with him. I believe that he has tried to follow the mantra of do better that is preached on ENWorld; he probably hasn't always succeeded, but he has tried. He was one of the people that spoke personally to Ernie Gygax when Ernie went off the deep end of intolerance, and ended up breaking ties with Ernie because of it.

All that being said, I get why Kuntz's words kicked off a lot of this discussion. It's unfortunate, but understandable. But I think it's really important to view those words through the proper lens. And objective history ain't it. His defense of Gary should be understood not from a historical perspective but from the point of view of someone dealing with the loss of a loved one. He's not only the voice of someone who knew Gary as a person, but the voice of someone who actively feels the loss of that person today.
 

My pet peeve is sources get held up in these discussions that often don’t seem like real history books to me. But it looks like I was wrong about Peterson because I was judging from the first edition. The second edition is put out by MIT and they do peer review (at least that is my understanding). So presumably the second edition has undergone the additional vetting I was talking about. Which I would say makes it a reliable history source

I understand, but at some point we need move on from such matters and avoid missing the forest for the trees. I'm glad this issue has been put to rest.
 

This. And it's been mentioned before. @Bedrockgames, harping on about whether or not a book should be considered a reputable history should begin with doing your own legwork. In point of fact, there are many reputable history texts that were not written by people with PhDs who teach at university. More so than in many other academic fields. And there are a fair few histories written by professors with PhDs that are not considered reputable.

This. And it's been mentioned before. @Bedrockgames, harping on about whether or not a book should be considered a reputable history should begin with doing your own legwork. In point of fact, there are many reputable history texts that were not written by people with PhDs who teach at university. More so than in many other academic fields. And there are a fair few histories written by professors with PhDs that are not considered reputable.

So it behooves reader to do a little legwork. First off, read the text yourself. Examine, in particular, the notes and citations. What is the author's reputation? If the text has been extensively peer reviewed, then that's great, but it doesn't always happen, especially in a new, niche area. It's not like there's a Journal of TTRPG History to tender submissions. But you can look for reviews and reactions from acknowledged experts in the field.

Rather than just asking other people in an online forum and beating the dead horse, find out your own answer. We all understand that not all histories are equal. This isn't some revelation. Assess the books yourself. Look into Peterson's reputation, and that of his books. If you then think this is not credible history because X,Y and Z, come back and make your case.

Otherwise, all your posts amount to, "Maybe Jon Peterson isn't a real historian." Thank you for the insight.
To be clear I was wrong about Playing at the World. I didn’t realize it was published in its second edition by MIT press, which would make it a reputable historical source.

That said I stand by drawing a distinction between history books written under the peer reviewed process from history departments by practicing historians and books not put out by university presses or practicing historians. Obviously people should read and get for themselves. But the point of peer review is you have people trained in historical research methods who work regularly with primary sources themselves vetting. That does make an enormous difference (doesn’t mean historians don’t write bad books or that non historians can’t write good books). Also for the record I like popular history books. I mentioned one of my favorite books on the Khmer Rouge was a Pol Pot biography written by a journalist. I just read it understanding it may have reliability issues and didn’t cite its sources in the same way as a history book (and were I using it for a history paper, as I was a student when I read it, I would have been more careful about using it as a source, probably would have avoided doing so unless it provided unique information on something)
 

It bothers me that Kuntz's words are being used to fuel defense of sexism
All due respect to the man, but...

If he made the bed, he gets to lie in it?

Nothing in the actual book in question warrants indignation as an attack on Gygax or anybody else. I would be happy if Rob Kuntz calmed down and backed down, but even granting that defending his mentor/father figure doesn't justify causing a public ruckus over gentle statements of fact (and it is a fact that WotC would not endorse some of these views today, not an opinion).
 

All due respect to the man, but...

If he made the bed, he gets to lie in it?

Nothing in the actual book in question warrants indignation as an attack on Gygax or anybody else. I would be happy if Rob Kuntz calmed down and backed down, but even granting that defending his mentor/father figure doesn't justify causing a public ruckus over gentle statements of fact (and it is a fact that WotC would not endorse some of these views today, not an opinion).

I think the problem is that Gary Gygax is an important figure in the hobby and therefore he's going to receive his fair share of acclaim and criticism. Kuntz would be better served by recognizing this and grow a thicker skin rather than become someone's elses useful idiot on a matter he may not want to take on.
 

To be clear I was wrong about Playing at the World. I didn’t realize it was published in its second edition by MIT press, which would make it a reputable historical source.

That said I stand by drawing a distinction between history books written under the peer reviewed process from history departments by practicing historians and books not put out by university presses or practicing historians. Obviously people should read and get for themselves. But the point of peer review is you have people trained in historical research methods who work regularly with primary sources themselves vetting. That does make an enormous difference (doesn’t mean historians don’t write bad books or that non historians can’t write good books). Also for the record I like popular history books. I mentioned one of my favorite books on the Khmer Rouge was a Pol Pot biography written by a journalist. I just read it understanding it may have reliability issues and didn’t cite its sources in the same way as a history book (and were I using it for a history paper, as I was a student when I read it, I would have been more careful about using it as a source, probably would have avoided doing so unless it provided unique information on something)
I assume you are referring to Philip Short's book? I've read it - my son wrote his IB History thesis on the rise of the Khmer Rouge. Mentioning that so you understand that lots of people on this forum understand how academia works and how history texts are published. If you have specific criticisms of Jon Peterson's work, or Ben Riggs' work, explain those criticisms. Otherwise, this all seems rather like an attempt to sidetrack the conversation from Ben Riggs on Gygax and sexism.
 

I assume you are referring to Philip Short's book? I've read it - my son wrote his IB History thesis on the rise of the Khmer Rouge. Mentioning that so you understand that lots of people on this forum understand how academia works and how history texts are published. If you have specific criticisms of Jon Peterson's work, or Ben Riggs' work, explain those criticisms. Otherwise, this all seems rather like an attempt to sidetrack the conversation from Ben Riggs on Gygax and sexism.

That is the one

I am sure plenty of people here understand how history texts are published. We have more than a few historians I am sure. I still stand by my point on the labels

I didn't have a criticism of Peterson's work. I mentioned that quite a few times. My issue was how we refer to people as historians in these discussions and how we talk about historical resources

I am not trying to sidetrack anything. It came up in conversation, people responded. That is what happens in these discussions. They are organic that way. I even learned some useful information about Peterson's book.
 

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