WotC WotC Removes Digital Content Team Credits From D&D Beyond

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According to Faith Elisabeth Lilley, who was on the digital content team at Wizards of the Coast, the contributor credits for the team have been removed from DDB.

The team was responsible for content feedback and the implementation of book content on the online platform. While it had been indicated to them that they would not be included in the credits of the physical books for space reasons, WotC apparently agreed to include them in the online credits.

It appears that those credits have now been removed.

I just discovered that I have been removed from book credits on D&D Beyond for books I worked on while at Wizards of the Coast.

Background:

While at Wizards (so after D&D Beyond was purchased) - with numerous books, my digital content team and I worked directly with the book team on the content, reading through rules drafts, suggesting changes, giving ideas, and catching issues. We had a full database of the content and understood exactly how it interacted.

Given that we were contributing to the content in the books, I felt it reasonable to request that team be added to the credits, but was informed the credits section was already too crowded with the number of people involved and many of the marketing team had already been dropped from credits. I felt strongly that anyone actually contributing to what is in the printed book should be credited though, so we agreed a compromise, that the team would be added to the credits page on D&D Beyond only, as there is no issue with "not enough space" on a web page.

I've added screenshots here that I had for some of the books.

At some point recently, those credits pages have been edited to remove the credits for me and the content team. Nobody reached out to let me know - it just happened at some point, and I only just noticed.

We've even been removed from the digital-only releases, that only released on D&D Beyond, such as the Spelljammer Academy drops.

I'm not angry or upset, just yet again, really disappointed, as somehow I expected better.

EDIT TO ADD MORE CONTEXT

It's not just getting the books online. I worked with Kyle & Dan to improve the overall book process from ideation to delivery across all mediums (you should have seen the huge process charts I built out...)

The lead designers would send over the rules for each new rulebook and we'd go through it, give feedback, highlight potential balance issues, look at new rules/design that was difficult to implement digitally and suggest tweaks to improve it etc etc. We even had ideas for new content that was then included in the book.

We'd go through the whole book in detail, catching inconsistencies and miscalculations, and I'm proud to say that we dramatically reduced the need for clarifications or errata on those books.

I'm not saying anyone on the design or book team was careless - far from it, they're consummate professionals - I am just illustrating the role my team and I had in contributing to the content, quality & success of the physical books, let alone the digital versions.

We should have been in the credits section of the physical printed book. We were part of the creative process. That was something we were actively discussing when I was informed I was being laid off.

Adding the team to the credits pages just on D&D Beyond was, as I mentioned above, a compromise while we figured things out.

My team were fully credited on the Cortex: Prime and Tales of Xadia books when D&D Beyond was still part of Fandom, before the Wizards acquisition.

In fact for those books we made sure to credit the entire digital development team, including developers, community managers and so forth - everyone who helped make the book successful.

I know that Wizards has hundreds of people involved and previously hit issues with the number of people in credits for D&D books, so pulled back from crediting some roles.

Would it be so bad to have to dedicate extra space in a book to the people whose contributions made the book successful?

I really don't think it would.
 

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How many man hours must you work on a product to get credit? Or do they list your art credit if they didn't use in the final physical copy?
I can see adding the ones and zeroes to digital product. But how many pages to the physical will be needed. Or worse will they just use a font 9 size and credit everyone.
you are missing the point, they were mentioned in the digital product, and that credit was actively removed
 

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I find I have a couple of questions here.

Now. Again. I know I am potentially tap dancing on land mines here. So please don’t take my questions as anything other than wishing clarification.

From what I understand, WotC has removed the credits of the DnD Beyond team from some (all?) products. No reason has been given for the removal.

Additionally, those who were removed have claimed that they actually had an active role in the development of these products. Thus they should be credited.

Has there been any verification that those who were removed actually did have a hand in creating these products?

I guess my question is, are we 100% sure that WotC is in the wrong here?
 

No, we don't 100% know WotC is in the wrong here. Because we only know part of one side of the story.

To @jasper 's point, how much work, effort, impact does someone need to contribute to a product to get credit for it? I submitted D&D Next playtest surveys and play tested at GenCon. Why isn't my name in the core books?
 

I find I have a couple of questions here.

Now. Again. I know I am potentially tap dancing on land mines here. So please don’t take my questions as anything other than wishing clarification.

From what I understand, WotC has removed the credits of the DnD Beyond team from some (all?) products. No reason has been given for the removal.

Additionally, those who were removed have claimed that they actually had an active role in the development of these products. Thus they should be credited.

Has there been any verification that those who were removed actually did have a hand in creating these products?

I guess my question is, are we 100% sure that WotC is in the wrong here?
This makes no sense whatsoever.

Are you asking if the lead member on that team who has posted about this is lying?

And furthermore, that WotC thought they had an active role in the products but just recently realized they did not? So that is why they were originally credited and then the credit removed?

Because there is no other way I can interpret your questions here. And, personally, I have no idea how implying that helps the conversation at all here. I can understand wanting to hear both sides, but that does not need to be accusing her of lying about what work she and her team did and how much of their contributions made it into the final products. Because she has been very clear that their contributions went far beyond just playtest feeback and answering surveys, and has explained how much development work they contributed.

So "did they actually contribute?" when she can clearly see their contributions included and has said as much, is basically asking if she is lying.
 

From what I understand, WotC has removed the credits of the DnD Beyond team from some (all?) products. No reason has been given for the removal.

Additionally, those who were removed have claimed that they actually had an active role in the development of these products. Thus they should be credited.
yes

Has there been any verification that those who were removed actually did have a hand in creating these products?
no, not sure how you would go about getting that, I doubt WotC will answer

They had a credit mentioning them and now they do not, feels like all the proof that they deserved it you will ever see

I guess my question is, are we 100% sure that WotC is in the wrong here?
beyond a reasonable doubt, absolutely
 




I have barely purchased any content on D&D Beyond apart from Curse of Strahd. Would the digital team also have been on that credit page?
No, the saved copy of the credits page I have for Curse of Strahd does not list the D&D Beyond team members like the more recent releases do. I don't think that one has changed.

Looking through my local copies, It looks like the practice of including credits for the D&D Beyond team started in July 2022 (with Journeys Through the Radiant Citadel) and continued until at least April 2024 (Vecna: Nest of the Eldritch Eye). The credits were removed sometime after April 2024.
 

This makes no sense whatsoever.

Are you asking if the lead member on that team who has posted about this is lying?

And furthermore, that WotC thought they had an active role in the products but just recently realized they did not? So that is why they were originally credited and then the credit removed?

Because there is no other way I can interpret your questions here. And, personally, I have no idea how implying that helps the conversation at all here. I can understand wanting to hear both sides, but that does not need to be accusing her of lying about what work she and her team did and how much of their contributions made it into the final products. Because she has been very clear that their contributions went far beyond just playtest feeback and answering surveys, and has explained how much development work they contributed.

So "did they actually contribute?" when she can clearly see their contributions included and has said as much, is basically asking if she is lying.
Yeah, see, this is why asking for clarification is so difficult. No. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I asked if there is any independent evidence that the claims are true. That is most definitely NOT accusing anyone of anything. It's asking a pretty basic question - is there anyone who can verify these claims?

I mean, one possiblility is someone who worked on these projects complained that the Beyond Team was getting credit for work they didn't do. So, WotC removed the credit based on the complaint. Is that true? I have zero idea. I don't know.

That's why I'm asking for more evidence before I say something like this:

@mamba said:
beyond a reasonable doubt, absolutely

See, I'm not comfortable making absolute statements based on one person's unsubstantiated claim. There are a thousand possible reasons for this happening, from WotC being a bunch of jerks, to internal office politics, to a misunderstanding, on and on. So, no, I want a bit more than just, "Well, I said so" before I make up my mind.


I'm sorry but, I like to have more facts in hand before I decide something "absolutely".
 

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