D&D (2024) Lots of new Lance options

[Hussar]

The dual welder feat removes the “light” requirement.

I thought that was right but I got told I was wrong. Cool to know.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

A lance is basically a ramming spike for a horse. It is designed to concentrate the weight of the horse into a single point to maximise the pressure (force/area), since if it fails to penetrate it will unhorse the rider (although most lances were designed to snap to prevent that).

Without a horse, it's a useless piece of wood that you would be better dropping and punching with your mailed fists.

You only need one arm to hold a lance, and whilst you would typically hold a shield to defend against other knights, you might substitute a mace, flail or other close quarters weapon to defend against infantry to the sides whilst you focus on steering your horse at the primary target.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I thought that was right but I got told I was wrong. Cool to know.

I'm only going by 2014 rules, I don't know how the feat reads in 2024.

 

[ECMO3]

The dual welder feat removes the “light” requirement.

The versions I have read do not completely remove this:

You gain the following benefits.
Ability Score Increase. Increase your Strength or Dexterity score by 1, to a maximum of 20.
Enhanced Dual Wielding. When you take the Attack action on your turn and attack with a weapon that has the Light property, you can make one extra attack as a Bonus Action later on the same turn with a different weapon, which must be a Melee weapon that lacks the Two-Handed property. You don't add your ability modifier to the extra attack's damage unless that modifier is negative.
Quick Draw. You can draw or stow two weapons that lack the Two-Handed property when you would normally be able to draw or stow only one.


Assuming this is true the weapon you attack with on your action must be light.

Edit: Apologies if you were refering to the 2014 feat, in which case you are exactly correct.

 

[ECMO3]

A lance is basically a ramming spike for a horse. It is designed to concentrate the weight of the horse into a single point to maximise the pressure (force/area), since if it fails to penetrate it will unhorse the rider (although most lances were designed to snap to prevent that).

Without a horse, it's a useless piece of wood that you would be better dropping and punching with your mailed fists.

You only need one arm to hold a lance, and whilst you would typically hold a shield to defend against other knights, you might substitute a mace, flail or other close quarters weapon to defend against infantry to the sides whilst you focus on steering your horse at the primary target.

I depends on what era you are talking about. An early lance is really just a spear and a little later it is a spear with a hooked area to brace it.

A jousting lance as used in tournaments has a blunt tip and is intended not to actually pierce armor but rather dismount the opponent (not always effective in practice).

 

[jmartkdr2]

The versions I have read do not completely remove this:

You gain the following benefits.
Ability Score Increase. Increase your Strength or Dexterity score by 1, to a maximum of 20.
Enhanced Dual Wielding. When you take the Attack action on your turn and attack with a weapon that has the Light property, you can make one extra attack as a Bonus Action later on the same turn with a different weapon, which must be a Melee weapon that lacks the Two-Handed property. You don't add your ability modifier to the extra attack's damage unless that modifier is negative.
Quick Draw. You can draw or stow two weapons that lack the Two-Handed property when you would normally be able to draw or stow only one.


Assuming this is true the weapon you attack with on your action must be light.

I think they were referring to the 2014 version of the feat.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I depends on what era you are talking about. An early lance is really just a spear and a little later it is a spear with a hooked area to brace it.

A jousting lance as used in tournaments has a blunt tip and is intended not to actually pierce armor but rather dismount the opponent (not always effective in practice).

People have a tendency to not understand that both the Plate Armor and the Lance as designed for Jousting were sports equipment, where the desire was NOT to kill anyone (or be killed) - not that it didn't happen - and that Plate and Lance for WAR are a very different style. Never anywhere near as "fancy".