D&D (2024) Lots of new Lance options

[Clint_L]

FWIW, because Lance is not Two-Handed when mounted, you can use it with Dual-Wielder.

This thread epitomizes putting game over story.

 

[GrimCo]

In 10 y of playing 5e, there wasn't a single time someone took lance.

It always rubbed me wrong the way they did lance. Glad they finally added 2 handed property. On foot, lance is just very bad spear, and everything that can be used with spears ( polearm master) should be usable with lance.

Dual lances are just plain silly, but if people like it, kudos to them.

 

[Baumi]

Humans can be small now. So you can play a small human on a mastif knight

P.S.: Aasimar and Tiefling can be small too .. but not dwarves, they have to stay medium

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Humans can be small now. So you can play a small human on a mastif knight

P.S.: Aasimar and Tiefling can be small too .. but not dwarves, they have to stay medium

wait really? I wonder why dwarf? how about elf can they be small? can you make a tall halfling or gnome that is medium?

I just assumed all the rac...species would get "they are normally X but can be Y" language.

 

[Eis]

2 houserule feats:

1. Dual wielder fix: you can now dual wield all onehanded weapons, not just light.

2. "new" feat:
Monkey grip, min STR 15+
+1 str
you can one treat twohanded MELEE weapons as one handed.

here you go, with 2 feats, you can now dual wield greatswords, lances, whatever...

man about five years ago I had a player that was obsessed with dual wielding halberds, he moved and left the campaign but I was working up to it eventually

 

[Baumi]

wait really? I wonder why dwarf? how about elf can they be small? can you make a tall halfling or gnome that is medium?

I just assumed all the rac...species would get "they are normally X but can be Y" language.

It seems only humans, aasimar and Tieflings can choose their size. They reasoned it (in a Video) with that their are real life small humans and want to open the option to play one .. which sounds fine by me. But I wonder how many will use that option just for min/maxing builds.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

It seems only humans, aasimar and Tieflings can choose their size. They reasoned it (in a Video) with that their are real life small humans and want to open the option to play one .. which sounds fine by me. But I wonder how many will use that option just for min/maxing builds.

It muddies the waters, I feel. Especially when a lot of their other races are making strong claims about biological defaults (and only some are allowed to have subraces). And it seems silly to call someone a dwarf when they literally cannot be small...

 

[Stormonu]

Looking around, it appears dual lances / dual spears is an Elden Ring thing?

I can't imagine it'd work in the real world, but I don't see a reason why it wouldn't be feasible in a fantasy game via a feat or subclass - something around 5th-6th level seems right.

Perhaps we should also bring back mercurial swords/buster swords as well, the latter for those with over 18 Strength.

One of these days, I am going to build an acrobatic dwarf (or perhaps gnome) who fights with two shields*, bladed if possible...

* First seen by me in a Samurai Jack episode.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

In 10 y of playing 5e, there wasn't a single time someone took lance.

Well, for 10 years they had disadvantage to attack adjacent targets (just to have d12 damage vs halberd/glaive d10).

Now, they no longer have that limitation, and are the only reach weapon with Topple (for what that's worth, as you cannot benefit from someone being prone yourself unless you get within 5ft of them).

What kills them for their intended mounted use, is that they are a Str weapon, when staying on mountback is a Dex save.

On foot, lance is just very bad spear, and everything that can be used with spears ( polearm master) should be usable with lance.

Spears are so passe, it's all about Tridents now! Unless... you're a Polearm Master, in which case it applies to spears but not tridents, which are totally not like spears at all, it seems...

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

Looking around, it appears dual lances / dual spears is an Elden Ring thing?

It's crazy good there, for sure. Dual spears are somehow faster than a single spear, and reach farther, for twice the damage.

Outside of that, I struggle to think of something that didn't present it as one spear held high, one low (to be ready to throw or thrust, respectively). So having two tools, but you're not going to be using them at the same time.