WotC D&D Hiring New Game Designer Months After Firing Many

The job pays from $86-145k and is for an experienced game designer—presumably much like one of those they let go a few months ago!

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Notably, one of those let go in December in Hasbro’s company-wide cost-cutting cull of over 1,000 jobs was D&D designer Dan Dillon. Dillon posted on Twitter—“Well. There it is. D&D is hiring a game designer, 8 months later. Was it worth it, you soulless f*****g cowards? Did you save enough money?”

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

I don't know - you and me (among others) seem to bounce back-and-forth between defending them and trashing them, depending on what the thread is about.

I agree, I've seen that stance from the both of you, and I respect you both for it! The world is not populated by black hats and white hats. And people being people, even if they favour one form of haberdashery, they sometimes switch head gear. And even then, when and if they switch is often controlled by moral relativism.

The best you can do is be in charge of your own actions and do the right thing and leave a good impression on the world. There are situations where stronger actions are required, but it is up to individuals to make an effort to fully understand those situations before picking up the torches and pitchforks.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

I agree with @mamba. Hasbro is currently holding WotC back, not the other way around.

At this point, yes, it appears to me that WotC is propping up Hasbro. But that is the nature of businesses, families and friendships. At one point, Hasbro purchased WotC in order to make the whole stronger, and WotC benefited from that. At this point in their respective lifecycles, Hasbro is at a low and WotC is at a high.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

yes it does, as posted:


So the question is what benefits Hasbro offers to WotC. Pretty sure we have some idea about the costs of being a subsidiary, I am not seeing any benefits at this point however, and everything @bedir than listed applies equally to an independent WotC imo

Yeah, the benefits offered by Hasbro are not what they once were...

 

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

Hasbro's purchase of WotC was never meant to benefit WotC, it was for the benefit of WotC's owners. Many people who had been WotC from the early days got cash in exchange for their stock, and could now spend that money on whatever they wanted.

If I sell you my car, it's not because I'm hoping you'll take good care of it, but because I want to use that money for something else.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

At this point, yes, it appears to me that WotC is propping up Hasbro. But that is the nature of businesses, families and friendships. At one point, Hasbro purchased WotC in order to make the whole stronger, and WotC benefited from that. At this point in their respective lifecycles, Hasbro is at a low and WotC is at a high.

Yeah, I think I agree with @Sorcerers Apprentice above - I'm not sure WotC ever benefited from being part of Hasbro - the former owners of WotC benefitted, in that they got paid for selling it, but I don't think that the company as a unit ever got much out of the deal. I'm not an insider, just a business partner (another kind of customer, really), so I could be wrong about that, but I don't think that I am.

 

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

Yeah, I think I agree with @Sorcerers Apprentice above - I'm not sure WotC ever benefited from being part of Hasbro - the former owners of WotC benefitted, in that they got paid for selling it, but I don't think that the company as a unit ever got much out of the deal. I'm not an insider, just a business partner (another kind of customer, really), so I could be wrong about that, but I don't think that I am.

Access to Hasbro's distribution chain and other connections wasn't a benefit? Access to a large company's infrastructure and knowledge of how to work in the world of larger corporations wasn't a benefit? Not picking up what you're laying down here, at all.

 

[Li Shenron]

If people boycotted every company that did this, there would be no internet, or phones, or, well, most anything.

That is simply not true. There will be more or less the same things, probably slightly more expensive but at the same time there would be less unemployment periods in people's lives therefore also more money for them to spend.

 

[Jadeite]

I am sure I will get attacked for this but it is pretty telling about these forums when WoTC hiring leads to all this vitriol.

I'd say that it's more telling of WotC that posting about their hiring leads to all this vitriol in these forums.

 

[Staffan]

Yeah, I think I agree with @Sorcerers Apprentice above - I'm not sure WotC ever benefited from being part of Hasbro - the former owners of WotC benefitted, in that they got paid for selling it, but I don't think that the company as a unit ever got much out of the deal. I'm not an insider, just a business partner (another kind of customer, really), so I could be wrong about that, but I don't think that I am.

There were likely some benefits of being part of Hasbro, such as access to their connections and supply chains and stuff, and that probably influenced the decision to sell to Hasbro in particular. But yeah, the sale was a result of Wizards shareholders telling Adkison "Wizards is flush with Pokemoney right now, and we want to cash out. Either you buy us out, sell to someone who will, or take the company public."

 

[Hussar]

Not to be "that guy" but, isn't this pretty standard in the RPG industry? Revolving doors and all that?