D&D (2024) Bonus action minor illusion (wizard illusionist 3rd level ability) creating cover and halflings

[FrogReaver]

illusions are tricky.

if you shoot an arrow then you interacted and only you see it.

Doesn’t matter who interacted. Matters who sees it being interacted with. Of course 2024 rules may say different. I have no idea.

Others just might explain to themselves that the crate had a hole between boards and the arrow passed there.

Some illusion spells explicitly say this. Most don’t.

Maybe you can spend an Action to point out to others that it is an illusion.

Sure, if they don’t also know it’s not an illusion at the same time you do.

 

[plisnithus8]

2014: “it must be no larger than a 5-foot cube.”
Halfling not cramped in a 5’ cube crate.

“Physical interaction with the image reveals it to be an illusion, because things can pass through it.”
Arrow through illusion crate reveals illusion but illusion stays in place so no line of sight between attackers and target.

“If a creature uses its action to examine the sound or image, the creature can determine that it is an illusion with a successful Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC. If a creature discerns the illusion for what it is, the illusion becomes faint to the creature.”
The successful investigator only becomes able to see target through illusion.

 

[plisnithus8]

double post -- sorry

 

[TheSword]

Is life sense a thing anymore for things like undead?

What about Blindsense? Would a creature with blindsense be able to see through an illusion? What about one that has more senses, taste, smell, sound etc?

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I had a rogue (arcane trick) that would make fake walls and be behind them as long as the wall was 5ft... good times

 

[TheSword]

“If a creature uses its action to examine the sound or image, the creature can determine that it is an illusion with a successful Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC. If a creature discerns the illusion for what it is, the illusion becomes faint to the creature.”
The successful investigator only becomes able to see target through illusion.

There seems to be two schools of thought.

A permissive school that suggests only if you yourself physically interact with the illusion (or study it successfully) would you realize it’s an illusion and it appear faint.

Or a restrictive school which suggests if you witness a physical interaction by someone else this would also reveal it to you and make it faint.

Not sure we’ve seen any rules for what would happen if a friend told you something was an illusion? Advantage on the study check or would you make them use the help action? Or would you allow that to reveal the illusion for what it was.

 

[g00se99994]

If someone knows you are in the 'crate' and you are shooting at him, I would have him at disadvantage to shoot you until he realizes it is an illusion. I might allow a save/check each round of interaction, or good for only one round since it is just a minor illusion.

yeah i think shooting through it would make it become transparent to the shooter.

 

[g00se99994]

it's one special case with one subclass.
It uses subclass resources, it should matter in combat.

and fireball does not care about your make believe crate.

Don't tell the DM LOL. I'll be a burnt halfling.

 

[g00se99994]

Is life sense a thing anymore for things like undead?

What about Blindsense? Would a creature with blindsense be able to see through an illusion? What about one that has more senses, taste, smell, sound etc?

Truesight would work I think.

 

[TheSword]

Truesight would work I think.

I would rule it that Blindsight would not register silent image or minor illusion at all. But would the more powerful illusions that have other senses.

True sight recognizes all of them.