D&D (2024) Rogues can now Sneak Attack with all thrown weapons - Tridents, Spears, Handaxes, they all work!

[Vaalingrade]

A spear is never a ranged weapon regardless of how you attack with it.

Any ruleset that thinks a thrown spear isn't a ranged weapon needs to be re-examined.

I know keywording is bad and wrong, but they could have done something.

 

[Plaguescarred]

It's clear what Sneak Attack says, it says Ranged weapon, not Range weapon.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Not one.

Yes. Not one. Several.

Bye.

 

[Maxperson]

It absolutely is. It is defined on page 214.



Range Weapon is both defined and linked from the sneak attack section.

You keep ignoring that there are links in two areas dealing with sneak attack and only one of them has a link to range. Given the likelihood that RAI is not to allow what you are proposing, it's probably that the error on DDB is with the link you are using.

 

[Plaguescarred]

The weapon is classified and usually doesn't move category based on usage

The Hoopak was an exception that specifically did IIRC.

 

[Maxperson]

A Range Weapon is a weapon with a range after the ammunition or thrown property.

Tell me where I can find this definition of Ranged Weapon that excludes those.



No it is not. It is clearly NOT using that as a distinguisher. Based on the link it is clearly saying axes and spears are Ranged Weapons.

No link says that spears and axes are ranged. There is only a link saying that they have range.

All women(ranged weapons) are human(weapons that have range), but not all humans(weapons that have range) are women(ranged weapons). Some humans(weapons that have range) are men(melee weapons with range).

 

[ECMO3]

Because range and ranged are differe t words.

But "Ranged Weapons", with then "d" is also defined on page 213 AND that definition is consistent with the definition of Range Weapon on page 214 AND the latter is linked from Sneak Attack!


But it just has to be wrong because you say so!

 

[Maxperson]

Until it is fixed it still has it and it is RAW.

You can play how you want.

It doesn't work that way. A broken link isn't a rule of any sort. Hell, no link is a rule. RAW is what is written in the PHB and the definition of range =/= ranged in that book.

 

[ECMO3]

No link says that spears and axes are ranged. There is only a link saying that they have range.

There are two definitions that show they are ranged:

Page 213:
Melee or Ranged. A weapon is classified as either Melee or Ranged. A Melee weapon is used to attack a target within 5 feet, whereas a Ranged weapon is used to attack at a greater distance.

Page 214
A Range weapon has a range in parentheses after the Ammunition or Thrown property.

What there is none of, is any definition indicating they aren't Ranged Weapons

 

[roguish]

"A weapon is classified as either Melee or Ranged. A Melee weapon is used to attack a target within 5 feet, whereas a Ranged weapon is used to attack at a greater distance."

So yes under this definition on page 213, which you qouted a Spear thrown beyond 5 feet is "classified" as a "Ranged Weapon" according to the very text YOU quoted. The same spear used to attack someone within 5 feet is a melee weapon.

Wait, so by your reasoning, a reach weapon can be a range(d) weapon? Because it attacks beyond 5 ft? Are glaives and pikes Ranged? Is that how you're gonna play? Are you gonna use Sharpshooter with a lance?

Never mind sneak attack, are you gonna treat "range" and "ranged" as synonymous for all the rules in this book? I'm asking in good faith: have you thought this through?