D&D General Would you buy an AI-generated Castle Greyhawk "by" Gary Gygax?" Should you?

[GMforPowergamers]

Yes I brought it up to demonstrate that using AI to mimic a human has consequences and that in the case of a ttrpg with a subsystem in the dmg that was designed to let players feel like a mini gm within the GM's actual campaign that consequence is the "[Jeff] would have done it better" getting carried forward from a month haul AI output.

so you are worried that an AI will run a more fun campaign then a living person... I guess someday that may happen, but I can't imagine. At best I can imagine (in the next 2-5 years) and AI DM that runs about as fun of a game as a mediocre to bad DM most times with a few outliers...

If players are comparing you to other DMs, and you don't like it the so called matt mercer effect, of like in that video remind them each game is different and that is the beauty of the game... enjoy my game for what you like in mind and Matts game for what you like in his... and maybe we will borrow some things from each other, but maybe we will disagree on things.

If the AI DM gets SOOOO good that my players would have more fun playing under the AI then me, then we would just switch to all being players under the AI... just like how my whole table is DMs and when one campagain winds down we all pitch what we want to run and vote... I guess it would add "Or the AI"

 

[tetrasodium]

so you are worried that an AI will run a more fun campaign then a living person... I guess someday that may happen, but I can't imagine. At best I can imagine (in the next 2-5 years) and AI DM that runs about as fun of a game as a mediocre to bad DM most times with a few outliers...

If players are comparing you to other DMs, and you don't like it the so called matt mercer effect, of like in that video remind them each game is different and that is the beauty of the game... enjoy my game for what you like in mind and Matts game for what you like in his... and maybe we will borrow some things from each other, but maybe we will disagree on things.

If the AI DM gets SOOOO good that my players would have more fun playing under the AI then me, then we would just switch to all being players under the AI... just like how my whole table is DMs and when one campagain winds down we all pitch what we want to run and vote... I guess it would add "Or the AI"

I mentioned poweercreep & monty haul in 183 for a reason and you literally just quoted 187 where I inadvertantly typo'd it as month haul. It wasn't that long ago that wotc. If your play experience with d&d is so shallow that the "fun" depends entirely on how much phat lewt your PCs walk away from the table with then yea I'm sure that an AI that does not know understand or care about the consequences of too much treasure will be more "fun" for you. The best I can do is point you to a page from the ad&d2e dmg talking about why threading the needle on how much treasure PCs get is important since that page talks about monty haul campaigns too.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I mentioned poweercreep & monty haul in 183 for a reason and you literally just quoted 187 where I inadvertantly typo'd it as month haul.

I didn't even notice the typo, I have fat fingers and am bad at spelling (I wish I could claim English as a second language but I am bad at the only one I know)
So that doesn't matter...

If your play experience with d&d is so shallow that the "fun" depends entirely on how much phat lewt your PCs walk away from the table with then yea I'm sure that an AI that does not know understand or care about the consequences of too much treasure will be more "fun" for you. The best I can do is point you to a page from the ad&d2e dmg talking about why threading the needle on how much treasure PCs get is important since that page talks about monty haul campaigns too.

I mean if the player just wants a power trip, then yeah the AI, or any single player video game would be better for that.

 

[tetrasodium]

I mean if the player just wants a power trip, then yeah the AI, or any single player video game would be better for that.

Yes, with wotc actually talking up power creep as a good & desirable deliberate feature it leads to the reason I initially brought it up when referencing Jeff & the the let players feel like a gm DMG section earlier.

 

[mamba]

I know there's a program out there with the likes of AI Donald Trump & Elon Musk playing D&D.

erratic, with limited knowledge of the rules and next to no attention to what is going on?

 

[jayoungr]

I'd read if it if was free. I don't think I'd pay money for it.

 

[Horwath]

I look forward to the courts figuring out how to measure that.

it will probably be impossible.

Make AI generated image/"painting" and the just iron out mistakes with any photo editor, like 6 fingers, 4 elbows or similar.
Is that 5% or 50% or 70% influence?

 

[Quickleaf]

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[GMforPowergamers]

Yes, with wotc actually talking up power creep as a good & desirable deliberate feature it leads to the reason I initially brought it up when referencing Jeff & the the let players feel like a gm DMG section earlier.

and again... is that what your players want? Is that what you want as a player?

I have run games that I guarantee would make any Monte Haul DM blush, and I have run games with 0 treasure and most stops in-between.

Spoiler: Example as a player

in 2e I was a wizard that at level 2 or 3 we came across a long forgotten ruins of a mage school... in the library the DM told us was "every spell in the PHB and Tomb of Magic... we also found enough rings of protection that we all got them, and we had left overs, +3 and +4 weapons, a bunch of scrolls and a device that made potions out of water if you knew the spell it was based on...

Spoiler: Example as a DM

I ran a 5e multiverse game where I introduce the concept of 'super artifacts' that were called 'singularities' and by level 5 I had handed out 1 to each player plus a hand full of artifacts... when I introduced the idea of merging with others of you from the multiverse giving you gestalt like effect

Spoiler: Example of player

I played in a 3.5 hombrew world where 'magic was dying' at level 10ish we had a magic set of bracers, a magic book, and a magic coin... there were 7 of us playing. we had that game fall apart around level 14ish and by then my rouge/ranger had a +1 bow...

Spoiler: Example running

I ran a 4e campaign in darksun... so we ran from level 1-26ish and I had given out a single metal weapon, and we used the inherent bonuses... and I think everyone but atleast most had a mystic boon that was equal to a heroic tier magic item

I don't care how 'monty hall' a DM can be (weather AI or flesh and blood) it's about if the game is what the players want to play.

 

[tetrasodium]

and again... is that what your players want? Is that what you want as a player?

Relevance? Where are you getting support for this wild leap from? Right from the start of this exchange I've talked about the AI stuff being used to bully the GM into matching an overly generous player facing AI feature. It doesn't matter if a player feels that wotc provided power creep as a feature is a good or bad thing in a discussion of players using it as a wotc provided club to browbeat their GM into meeting or exceeding its generosity.

I didn't steal the man's work, your honor.

My bot did.

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