D&D General You Can Now Make Greyhawk Stuff On DM's Guild!

As of today, third party creators can publish and sell material set in the World of Greyhawk! Dating back to the dawn of Dungeons & Dragons, Greyhawk has an entire chapter devoted to it in the new 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide.

Right now you can check out some legacy official content from Wizards of the Coast, but expect more to start appearing there as soon as the third party creators get their teeth into it.

Dungeons & Dragons May Not Come Back to Greyhawk After 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide

Wizards of the Coast does not appear to have future plans for the Greyhawk setting past the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide. Speaking at a press event earlier this month, Dungeons & Dragons game architect Chris Perkins explained that the inclusion of Greyhawk campaign setting material in the...

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[Parmandur]

What I see is a lot of people just basically don't understand how AI works.

Yes, some do not seem to not understand how LLM copy-pasta mad libs visuals work...

 

[Emerikol]

Yes, some do not seem to not understand how LLM copy-pasta mad libs visuals work...

Well anyone who could track it back to a mere copy paste then they'd have a legal case of copyright infringement. Good luck doing that.

 

[TwoSix]

Don't know if you are joking about the latter, though I think the DMsGuild could use more of that sort of mixing. If you are serious and make an exploration of how to mix the theologies of the two Settings, and make a map thst connects the Flannaes to the eastern edge of Faerûn replacing Kara-Tur, I will buy it.

I thought the controversial topics and multiple misspellings would have made my absurdism more obvious.

 

[dave2008]

In my view it's bigger than Eberron but not Greyhawk or Forgotten Realms. There was more done for it than for Greyhawk in terms of actual world. And every BECMI adventure was set in Mystara.

No having said that, let me say it's not my favorite. I prefer Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms more. But it was big and if you missed that fact then you just missed it. I can see that if you were mostly in the AD&D world.

We played in our own homebrew world actually. We have since the early 80s. Never really got in the official campaign settings. Actually, when we started we didn't even realize there was an official setting.

 

[Parmandur]

Well anyone who could track it back to a mere copy paste then they'd have a legal case of copyright infringement. Good luck doing that.

People are working on it, yes.

As it remains, using it in a commercial product is purely unethical and disgusting. Theybwould have been better off using stick figures, especially for a 5 page fluff piece.

 

[Parmandur]

I thought the controversial topics and multiple misspellings would have made my absurdism more obvious.

This is D&D, absurdist sells.

 

[Parmandur]

We played in our own homebrew world actually. We have since the early 80s. Never really got in the official campaign settings. Actually, when we started we didn't even realize there was an official setting.

To be fair, even people using the early Srtting products like the GH Folio or 1X1 were having to mostly hokebrew, too.

 

[dave2008]

One of the biggest D&Ds of all tine and its stuff has been mined off into other stuff up to an including 5E.

But it has not been a setting sine 2e correct? Also, it only became a setting after the fact. We had a game and adventures that we bought and played it in the early 80s and only later told this was "Mystara." The game, at least to us, didn't feel like it had a setting back in the day.

 

[dave2008]

And there is nothing wrong with AI images. If you don't like what is produced then you don't like the art. Nothing more need be said about it. There is nothing wrong with a computer generating art vs a human.

It is not copying though. It may source conceptual ideas from a broad spectrum of art but it is not copying. It won't produce any image that exists. Every human single artist in the universe is inspired by other artists. If I created a picture that looked like an Elmore design but was totally new, Elmore would have no complaint. A style can't be copyrighted. Only the work.

What I see is a lot of people just basically don't understand how AI works.

I see that you don't seem to understand how human made art works, nor ethics really.

There are ethical issues on multiple levels with AI. We, society, just choose to ignore many/most of them. Because they don't feel like an issue to you (and others, including myself sometimes) doesn't mean they are not ethical issues.

 

[Oofta]

It is not copying though. It may source conceptual ideas from a broad spectrum of art but it is not copying. It won't produce any image that exists. Every human single artist in the universe is inspired by other artists. If I created a picture that looked like an Elmore design but was totally new, Elmore would have no complaint. A style can't be copyrighted. Only the work.

What I see is a lot of people just basically don't understand how AI works.

Just because they only take bits and pieces, lump together a bunch of images, it is still copying. It is still theft, not from one image or artist, but theft nonetheless.

It's like saying you're not really a pickpocket if you don't take all of the money an individual has. You're still taking people's money.

AI does not think or create. It matches patterns from art it copied without approval or payment. It then matches those patterns with other art it copied without approval or payment and combines them.

At no point does AI understand what image it's generating. It can't. Because it's just putting things it stole into a shredder and pasting random bits together. It's amazing technology (even if i think it may well have hit a dead end), but it's still based on theft at a grand scale.