D&D General You Can Now Make Greyhawk Stuff On DM's Guild!

As of today, third party creators can publish and sell material set in the World of Greyhawk! Dating back to the dawn of Dungeons & Dragons, Greyhawk has an entire chapter devoted to it in the new 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide.

Right now you can check out some legacy official content from Wizards of the Coast, but expect more to start appearing there as soon as the third party creators get their teeth into it.

Dungeons & Dragons May Not Come Back to Greyhawk After 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide

Wizards of the Coast does not appear to have future plans for the Greyhawk setting past the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide. Speaking at a press event earlier this month, Dungeons & Dragons game architect Chris Perkins explained that the inclusion of Greyhawk campaign setting material in the...

www.enworld.org

 

[Emerikol]

I want to clarify that I know of both birthright and the known world now. But I didn't back then. I started with BECMI (with AD&D mashed in) and had no idea the "setting" was the Known World / Mystara until I started coming to online forums back in 2007/2008. So I obviously interacted with it to some extent, but it seem entirely irrelevant to the game. Now I didn't have any interaction with and I only even know of it from such discussions of classic settings over the past decade or so.

In my view it's bigger than Eberron but not Greyhawk or Forgotten Realms. There was more done for it than for Greyhawk in terms of actual world. And every BECMI adventure was set in Mystara.

No having said that, let me say it's not my favorite. I prefer Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms more. But it was big and if you missed that fact then you just missed it. I can see that if you were mostly in the AD&D world.

 

[Emerikol]

And there is nothing wrong with AI images. If you don't like what is produced then you don't like the art. Nothing more need be said about it. There is nothing wrong with a computer generating art vs a human.

 

[TwoSix]

Working on "Dragonborn and Tieflings of the Flaenneess" right now.

My next work will be "How to use the Forgotten Realms Pantheon in Greyhawke."

Followed by the short adventure, "Drizzt versus the Circle of Nine."

 

[Parmandur]

If that is true, then it has been around for less than half the games history. So is it a major setting?

Depends on how we measure "major". The Gazateer line from BECMI seems to benselling pretty hot on DMsGuild, and there were alot of those, so it is not fully forgotten, at any rate. Mystara had more product made than most D&D Settings.

 

[Parmandur]

And there is nothing wrong with AI images. If you don't like what is produced then you don't like the art. Nothing more need be said about it. There is nothing wrong with a computer generating art vs a human.

No, that's not how it works: just because a small creator uses unethical methods doesn't mean that they get a pass. They would get a pass for not having art at all, or using sketchy OD&D style art.

 

[Parmandur]

Working on "Dragonborn and Tieflings of the Flaenneess" right now.

My next work will be "How to use the Forgotten Realms Pantheon in Greyhawke."

Followed by the short adventure, "Drizzt versus the Circle of Nine."

Don't know if you are joking about the latter, though I think the DMsGuild could use more of that sort of mixing. If you are serious and make an exploration of how to mix the theologies of the two Settings, and make a map thst connects the Flannaes to the eastern edge of Faerûn replacing Kara-Tur, I will buy it.

 

[Emerikol]

No, that's not how it works: just because a small creator uses unethical methods doesn't mean that they get a pass. They would get a pass for not having art at all, or using sketchy OD&D style art.

It is not unethical to use AI. There is nothing wrong with it. I don't care if WOTC uses AI art. Is the art good? Yes. Then fine. Is it bad? Then bad. The creator making the art doesn't matter to me. I don't see the issue with AI art.

 

[Parmandur]

It is not unethical to use AI.

Yes, it is unethical to use AI art commercially.

There is nothing wrong with it.

Yes, it is wrong

I don't care if WOTC uses AI art.

You should.

The creator making the art doesn't matter to me.

AI art is not created or even really art, someone using AI tools to pop out art is not a creator anymore than someone playing mad libs is therefore a novelist.

I don't see the issue with AI art.

Just because you don't see the issue doesn't mean it is not real. Look here, in this case, the writer (if they actually wrote anything) alienated part of their core audience when they could have just posted it with no art.

 

[Oofta]

It is not unethical to use AI. There is nothing wrong with it. I don't care if WOTC uses AI art. Is the art good? Yes. Then fine. Is it bad? Then bad. The creator making the art doesn't matter to me. I don't see the issue with AI art.

AI art is made by copying art was created by a person. That person was never compensated for the use of their art. It's basically theft of artist's creations.

I don't have a big issue using AI art for personal use, because I never would have paid for art in the first place. But if I were producing art for something I expect to sell? I'd either not put anything in, sketch it myself, or pay someone.

 

[Emerikol]

AI art is made by copying art was created by a person. That person was never compensated for the use of their art. It's basically theft of artist's creations.

I don't have a big issue using AI art for personal use, because I never would have paid for art in the first place. But if I were producing art for something I expect to sell? I'd either not put anything in, sketch it myself, or pay someone.

It is not copying though. It may source conceptual ideas from a broad spectrum of art but it is not copying. It won't produce any image that exists. Every human single artist in the universe is inspired by other artists. If I created a picture that looked like an Elmore design but was totally new, Elmore would have no complaint. A style can't be copyrighted. Only the work.

What I see is a lot of people just basically don't understand how AI works.