D&D (2024) Kobold Press posts 2024 DMG Hit Piece

Yes, it would have been better.

I confess to being curious about what it would have changed about how you interact with the product if it was identical except for saying it was 6th instead of 5th (2024)? (And still said it would work with pretty much anything from 5th without too much working stuff around).
 

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I confess to being curious about what it would have changed for about how you interact with the product if it was identical except for saying it was 6th instead of 5th (2024)? (And still said it would work with pretty much anything from 5th without too much working stuff around).
I feel 3pp would have felt less pressure to completely change their product lines to match WotC's vision of the moment.
 



Why would they all feel less need to crank out stuff for a brand new 6e than they do change things for a modified 5e?
I am not seeing any pressure forcing third parties to adapt the new rules: what they made for the old rules still looks fine, even WotC is re-releasing older 5E third party stuff on the Beyond marketlplace.
 

Because they already have 5e material that in this scenario hasn't been functionally erased by WotC's fake non-edition marketing.
But the 6th edition would have been exactly the same changes and same amount of editing (based on how I phrased it as only changing the name)? Why is updating it for 5e2024 any different than for 6e? (Except for annoyance factor, which I will admit is a thing).
 

But the 6th edition would have been exactly the same changes and same amount of editing (based on how I phrased it as only changing the name)? Why is updating it for 5e2024 any different than for 6e? (Except for annoyance factor, which I will admit is a thing).
The label makes a difference. There's no agreed upon label for the two different versions of D&D 5e, so its treated by the industry as nothing more than "newer is better" so far as any changes WotC has made to their 5e rules. If they called it 6e, then 5e would stop as far as WotC is concerned (just like all the previous editions) and 6e would be considered a separate thing any 3pp could make new content for if they wanted. They could also continue to develop the 5e content they had been producing, some of them near a decade.
 

That is not at all what I said. I am not happy with you misrepresenting my statements.

I said I was not interested in WotC creating separate DMGs that would, in effect, create orothodoxy for each covered playstyle. I think there's enough playstyle variation out there that rigid books would be a disservice to the players.

I did say that a series of articles might be very good. I did suggest 3pp could do such, if WotC did not, but I have no issue with WotC doing articles.

I said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about guides to 3pp products. At all. That is a fiction, if perhaps an accidental one. In any event, I said no such thing.

If WotC wants to set up to give folks pointers to 3pp that might serve their needs, that's fine by me.
It's an error of communication of course, not malicious intent. My point was referring to the idea that D&D Beyond should be a roadmap to 3pp because the average gamer is more likely to go there to find stuff about the game than they are somewhere like Enworld. I interpreted your point to being that 3pp doesn't need D&D Beyond to that since 3pp already does fine without WotC's promotion.

My apologies for misinterpreting
 


The label makes a difference. There's no agreed upon label for the two different versions of D&D 5e, so its treated by the industry as nothing more than "newer is better" so far as any changes WotC has made to their 5e rules. If they called it 6e, then 5e would stop as far as WotC is concerned (just like all the previous editions) and 6e would be considered a separate thing any 3pp could make new content for if they wanted. They could also continue to develop the 5e content they had been producing, some of them near a decade.

Both the D&D store (at Wizards) and Amazon seem to be using 2014 and 2024 in front of the names to distinguish the core books, and in parentheses after the names on the rear covers of the books themselves.
 

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