Also the episode in which Miles wished Keiko could be more like a man.
Yeah, I did like the episode where she demands Sisko look into the "death" of Miles becasue he never drinks coffee in the afternoon. However, it turns out O'brien does drink coffee int he afternoon just making their marriage seem even less close lol.Also the episode in which Miles wished Keiko could be more like a man.
I do feel sorry for Keiko - as a side character she only ever really showed up in Miles-centric episodes, and since Miles-centric episodes were almost always under the "O'Brien must suffer" rule, she tended to come off as disproportionately unsympathetic in them. I do wish we'd got to see more scenes of actual married bliss for Miles and his family.
Well, different in places, certainly. I don't know about preceding. JMS submitted his series bible to Paramount. They had it in hand while planning DS9. There are just too many overt similarities to be coincidental.
If it's not interesting to you, how much of it have you watched? If you haven't watched much of it, I'm not sure you can accurately judge how similar they are. There are giant lists of similarities all over the net, you just have to look for them.
1. Do you do, or do you do not, remember the scene I am referencing?
Oh, I know. The point is... is there a point? I don't know if there's a point. My point is that this that this is very different from Bashir and Garak. I don't think I have a best friend who is on par with my wife, but I can imagine the scenario. And no level of deepness of that level would make that the romantic relationship, and the one with my wife the 'friend' relationship. I think it's doubly cool if we accept the subtextual Bashir/Garak as canonical, and O'Brien can have a more powerful platonic relationship with a gay man (forming a romantic relationship with a third man) than his romantic relationship with his wife is, and that still not making his affection for Bashir romantic.
About half of season 1, all of seasons 2-3 and about half of season 4? So I guess about 60% not counting films etc. The 1990s were a sparse time for sci fi on UK TV, compared to now.
Sure. But there's a huge difference between frowned upon and literally not existing. Roddenberry wasn't aiming for the former, he rather famously absolutely insisted on the latter.
And that tension is what drove many of the stories. Which is exactly what makes DS9 one of the best Trek shows.
Respectfully, you're wrong. It sounds a whole lot more like you don't want to see the problem so you refuse to. Clearly this isn't going to be a productive avenue of discussion.
I accept your respectful disagreement and agree to disagree, but note that this is not an objective issue.
Could it ever be? However the two shows started out, they each found their own identity and told their own stories through the course of their runs, and whether or not the origins of DS9 are problematic is somewhat irrelevant this many years down the line.
Exactly. The idea DS9 is a direct rip off without any of its own ideas is so entirely overblown.
