D&D General No One Reads Conan Now -- So What Are They Reading?

[Alzrius]

Remember - the Sad Puppies may have positioned their arguments about "the industry" but as a matter of fact, the awards they tried to influence were not given out by the publishers.

Your use of quotation marks here suggests that you're accurately presenting their position. That might very well be the case, but your lack of links or citations means that you're basically asking us to take your word for it. So to then turn around and ask...

Upon what do you base that assertion?

...comes across as you holding people to a standard that you yourself aren't living up to.

 

[Belen]

Who the heck are “sad puppies?” This discussion seems to have gotten odd.

 

[Bedrockgames]

. So the Carreia's and the SP argument that it has been taken over has always been full of naughty word. (Especially considering that their own works are filled to the brim with political content, so even that argument is also a faulty one.)

One of my issues with Sad Puppies is the complaint seems to be that the industry is overly political, so their solution is to be overly political. That said, I do think the genre benefits when you have a wide range of political and social views being used as themes. And I think people in general have had a much harder time engaging with themes they don't agree with (and variety has kind of balkanized-----you want left wing you go here, you want right wing, you go here)

 

[overgeeked]

Who the heck are “sad puppies?” This discussion seems to have gotten odd.

An alt-Reich voting block that tried to game the Hugo Awards voting system.

Sad Puppies - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Umbran]

I think there has been a broadening around certain things. Obviously there are places where things have opened up. But there is also a narrowing at the same time.

This is... extremely vague.

I am left with only saying you are free to feel, whatever you want. If you aren't going to be specific about what you mean by "certain/some things", it is a non-falsifiable assertion.

 

[Belen]

I mean, I have heard of Corriea, but never read his books.

I am a fan of Baen books, in general. They allow you to own your ebooks rather than rent them.

 

[Umbran]

Who the heck are “sad puppies?” This discussion seems to have gotten odd.

Sorry. I saw similarities in position.

The "Sad Puppies" were some folks, nominally led by author Larry Correia, who had a beef that awards for sci-fi/fantasy fiction weren't going to their kind of fiction any more.

Edit: I should note - they didn't argue that their fiction didn't exist. They were still getting published.

 

[Belen]

An alt-Reich voting block that tried to game the Hugo Awards voting system.

Sad Puppies - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ah. I do not pay attention to book awards. I never found them useful as a measure of what I may enjoy in a book.

 

[Cordwainer Fish]

Critics have always been better educated, more interested in actual analysis of works, more interested in actual skill or effective originality, and so on.

And some authors have never forgiven them for that. (I'm looking at you, Robert A. Heinlein.)

 

[Belen]

Sorry. I saw similarities in position.

The "Sad Puppies" were some folks, nominally led by author Larry Correia, who had a beef that awards for sci-fi/fantasy fiction weren't going to their kind of fiction any more.

I have never read Corriea. I always assumed he wrote video game fiction and I mainly stopped reading tie-in novels.

As I said before, I have not paid any attention to things like Hugo awards since I was in college.

For me, I love the experience of finding news books and authors at bookstores and the experience has gotten poor. I have not bought a book from a physical store in over a year unless for my kids. At first it was all the modern day werewolf and vamp mess and now it is full of romance and it all looks and feels like paint by numbers and the descriptions all feel the same.

I do not care who writes the books or who an author aligns with. I just see little that interests me.

I read Jemesin’s broken earth and yarros’ 4th wing. I was not a fan of either although I have tons are friends who love and recommend there. Mass’s Throne books were good but the Court novels were not.