Overrated/Underrated Geek Media

[Ryujin]

Seinfeld is basically It's Always Sunny on the Upper West Side, with less self-aware characters.

I never got the hype over Seinfeld; an essentially plotless sitcom involving a group of narcissists, whose biggest "jokes" are Yiddishisms that I've known since I was maybe 7 years old.

 

[payn]

I never got the hype over Seinfeld; an essentially plotless sitcom involving a group of narcissists, whose biggest "jokes" are Yiddishisms that I've known since I was maybe 7 years old.

It was meme before we knew we wanted meme.

 

[Bedrockgames]

I never got the hype over Seinfeld; an essentially plotless sitcom involving a group of narcissists, whose biggest "jokes" are Yiddishisms that I've known since I was maybe 7 years old.

I grew up with Yiddish expressions from my father and I still found the material very funny (as did he). I also worked in a Jewish bakery in the 90s and I can't tell you the number of times Seinfeld got quoted

 

[dragoner]

Similar, didn't much care for it, plus having lived in NYC for a while, they were in fact annoying yuppies.

 

[Scribe]

They're shallow people, not bad people.

I mean, I just dont think this works out when we look at the evidence, the finale kind of makes my argument for me.

 

[Bohandas]

I know Rand's history, she left the USSR where they lost it all, so a big axe to grind.

And yet ironically completely bought into their propaganda. It's evident from her work that she genuinely believed that the people in charge of the USSR cared about things like class equality, and that's why she attacked those things

 

[Clint_L]

So like, the kind of moviegoers who go to the movies to seem sophisticated rather than to enjoy the movies?

Or...here's a hot take...maybe they actually like those films? Maybe having watched a lot of movies, and being passionate about movies, makes them more discerning in their tastes, so that they are less stimulated by mass-produced, predictable, unoriginal multiplex eye candy?

Or yeah, maybe they're just faking it. That seems like an uncharitable take, though. Is it possible that people like different things than you?

Edit: in the spirit of this thread, I suppose you are arguing that 70s movies are overrated. I disagree, but fair enough.

 

[dragoner]

And yet ironically completely bought into their propaganda. It's evident from her work that she genuinely believed that the people in charge of the USSR cared about things like class equality, and that's why she attacked those things

Trotsky criticized it for developing a "ruling caste." However, the census of 1923 after the civil war, found that the country was 80% illiterate peasants, to which Lenin remarked, "half of those without a horse." The Civil War being so bad that Petrograd/St Petersburg, a city of bricks, had lost the ability to make bricks, it took years to reinvent the industry. It serves as a warning from history, have a revolution to get rid of a Czar, and get Koba the prison gangster boss instead - a Stalin. The irony then is he filled the gulag with the Bolsheviks themselves, all that was left were the Czarist traditions. Nevertheless, without the crash industrialization, the Russians would have been exterminated by the Germans. Rand definitely buys into the "Great Man" theory; which is disputable, and rather unsavory after WW2. I think she knew it too, and was rather lost, an addiction to amphetamines probably didn't help that.

 

[TiQuinn]

So like, the kind of moviegoers who go to the movies to seem sophisticated rather than to enjoy the movies?

Maybe if you just said you don’t like movies from that era rather than call it a dark age, you wouldn’t have gotten the response you received.

 

[Some Dude]

I remember in 2005 when George A. Romero's "Land of the Dead" came out. In an interview, director Robert Rodriguez said, "It's been 35 years and people are still talking about Night of the Living Dead. No one is talking about The English Patient."