D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

[Zardnaar]

Pickles have no place on a hot sandwich!

I'm not a big fan up to a point need to get the balance right.

 

[Bedrockgames]

I thought Puzza Hut was amazing first time I had it. But nothing to compare it to except frozen pizza.

Sometimes I think it can be best pizza for price/value. One point here they were doing 12" or 13" sourdough for $5.70 usd give or take. And they were nice. 10" was less than $3 for Basic flavor for a while.

Obviously better pizza available but you're often paying through the nose for it. Double the price or X4. Probably get a bigger pizza though.

I've paid more fir worse pizza than Pizza Hut. Haven't eaten any pizza from fast food or restaurant for a while though due to salt.

I grew up with plenty of goo pizza around, and it is almost sacrilege, but I always liked Pizza Hut a lot. Something about the buttery crust. Can't eat that stuff anymore either. But my two favorite 'fast food' pizza places were Pizza Hut and Papa Ginos

 

[Zardnaar]

I grew up with plenty of goo pizza around, and it is almost sacrilege, but I always liked Pizza Hut a lot. Something about the buttery crust. Can't eat that stuff anymore either. But my two favorite 'fast food' pizza places were Pizza Hut and Papa Ginos

I didn't have childhood memories of it. Very narrow gap between trying it first time and the dine in all you can eat went bye bye.

Dined in a few times with my partner but they disappeared soon. She's not really into pizza anyway. Still togather though.

 

[rhythmsoundmotion]

I am lost now. Which edition of Dungeons & Dragons is the Pizza Hut edition?
(Joking)

 

[Zardnaar]

I am lost now. Which edition of Dungeons & Dragons is the Pizza Hut edition?
(Joking)

Probably 1E.

 

[Umbran]

Don't bring a dictionary to a logic fight. Nothing in the OED definition of "opinion" conflicts with anything Hussar said at all.

I feel it does.

If you are describing what someone says as an opinion, that is an admission that it isn't backed by enough information to be considered fact or knowledge.

Recognizing that at the start, about both your own and other people's positions, is key in avoiding getting into conflicts that cannot resolve, because neither of you can prove anything.

Really? When you, in your capacity as a mod, tell someone that their behavior here has crossed a line, I'd say that you're expressing your opinion. But I'd also say that you generally have excellent reasons for that opinion, and that you wouldn't be nearly so good a mod if you didn't.

Sure. But that I generally have some justifications for my moderation actions does not say that opinions that don't have the same level of support are somehow invalid.

 

[Hussar]

Sure. But that I generally have some justifications for my moderation actions does not say that opinions that don't have the same level of support are somehow invalid.

But, would you not say that opinions that do not have the same level of support are less supported? As in if you have two contrary opinions, one with support and one without, we generally should find the supported opinion to be a stronger argument?

In a discussion where we are just stating our preferences, well, anything goes. No one is trying to present facts. But, once you start presenting facts to support your opinion, then isn't it reasonable to test those facts? And if those facts are lacking, possibly for any number of reasons, shouldn't we be able to point that out?

/snip

The fact that one opinion is based on facts and another based on emotions/reactions doesn't make the first any more valid or valuable than the second. At least, not in my opinion.

Given the facts that you presented to support your opinion which started this whole little merry go round about opinions, I do truly believe that you believe that. Why bother with facts when you can just state that something is "just my opinion" and make it completely immune to any challenge? After all, if all opinions, supported by facts or not, are always equally valid, then, well, it makes it so much easier to pitch certain things as facts.

 

[kayakingpoodle]

But, would you not say that opinions that do not have the same level of support are less supported? As in if you have two contrary opinions, one with support and one without, we generally should find the supported opinion to be a stronger argument?

In a discussion where we are just stating our preferences, well, anything goes. No one is trying to present facts. But, once you start presenting facts to support your opinion, then isn't it reasonable to test those facts? And if those facts are lacking, possibly for any number of reasons, shouldn't we be able to point that out?


Given the facts that you presented to support your opinion which started this whole little merry go round about opinions, I do truly believe that you believe that. Why bother with facts when you can just state that something is "just my opinion" and make it completely immune to any challenge? After all, if all opinions, supported by facts or not, are always equally valid, then, well, it makes it so much easier to pitch certain things as facts.

Honestly if we are comparing opinions facts, to my way of thinking, are only relevant if you are trying to force your opinion on someone or they are trying to force their's on you. Though at that point are they really opinions anymore?

 

[Zardnaar]

Honestly if we are comparing opinions facts, to my way of thinking, are only relevant if you are trying to force your opinion on someone or they are trying to force their's on you. Though at that point are they really opinions anymore?

Pretty much yeah. I like 2E I don't expect you to.
I'm also not a Paladin of Purity for 2E either.

 

[Hussar]

Honestly if we are comparing opinions facts, to my way of thinking, are only relevant if you are trying to force your opinion on someone or they are trying to force their's on you. Though at that point are they really opinions anymore?

Really? Supporting an opinion with facts is now trying to force an opinion on someone? Seriously?

Earlier in the thread someone claimed that DnD was its most popular when it was marketed to 20+ year olds. That’s an opinion. Now the facts are that this is not true. This is shown to be not true by a number of things - marketing at the time, sale numbers of DnD products and various other things.

Are you now saying that by fact checking someone’s claims that we are forcing our opinions on them?