D&D General If Nentir Vale were in the Forgotten Realms, where would they be?

[Charlaquin]

mass = "4ce" x acceleration?

You mean “4ce” = Mass * Acceleration. If you want to render it with mass first it would be Mass = “4ce” / Acceleration.

 

[Charlaquin]

Nentir Vale is a small area. However the "Nentir Vale setting" aka the Points Of Light setting, aka the Axis setting, normally assumes this, where Nentir Vale is in the region of Nerath:

Right, but OP was asking about the small area within this setting that’s actually called Nentir Vale.

 

[Desdichado]

Of course, DMs can create and modify any setting.

Yes, of course. You seem to have somehow missed the point of this exercise. Chris Perkins said in an old twitter post that Nentir Vale was originally meant to be in the forgotten realms. I'm asking where people think it makes sense for it to have been, if that had in fact happened.

Nothing about the "Nentir planet" or DMs making their own changes or anything like that has anything to do with the topic.

 

[Desdichado]

You mean “4ce” = Mass * Acceleration. If you want to render it with mass first it would be Mass = “4ce” / Acceleration.

I was going to make some comment about 4e physics being different than real life physics, but... you're right. I got the formula dyslexia-ed in my head.

 

[Yaarel]

Yes, of course. You seem to have somehow missed the point of this exercise. Chris Perkins said in an old twitter post that Nentir Vale was originally meant to be in the forgotten realms. I'm asking where people think it makes sense for it to have been, if that had in fact happened.

Nothing about the "Nentir planet" or DMs making their own changes or anything like that has anything to do with the topic.

In your original post, you mention the Nentir Vale "setting".

However, if I recall correctly, there is nothing distinctive about the Nentir Vale locale itself. What makes the setting a "setting" is the Axis cosmology and the global "history", including Tiefling and Dragonborn, and at the time the introduction of the Feywild Eladrin.

Without its wider world context, the vale is simply a small rural area of forest among mountains and hills, two small lakes, and a swamp. Genuinely curious, what would be the point of using the proper names here to replace the names in an other world setting with the same rural geography?

 

[R_J_K75]

I think I'd place it on the Sword Coast as it was depicted, I think, up until 5E. The area between Baldurs Gate and Daggerford is what I consider the Sword Coast. If IIRC Daggerford and beyond is considered the North, the Savage Frontier but its called the Sword Coast now in 5E which I never liked. Baldurs Gate to Daggerford south to north, and the Sword Coast/Sea of Sword's to the west up and to Anauroch/Darkhold to the east seems like a good place to place the Nentir Vale IMO. As I recall there was no central government in the area and each town village policed themselves, but the area was pretty lawless. Lots of places of danger in the area, and a lot of caravan activity for bandits to prey upon. Seems to fit well with the Points of Light concept.

 

[Desdichado]

In your original post, you mention the Nentir Vale "setting".

I said that Nentir Vale was a setting. Because it is. I also linked to specifically the Chris Perkins post. I dunno, man, it seems like you're going out of your way to interpret the word setting in a weirdly specific way that's clearly not what anyone else meant.

However, if I recall correctly, there is nothing distinctive about the Nentir Vale locale itself. What makes the setting a "setting" is the Axis cosmology and the global "history", including Tiefling and Dragonborn, and at the time the introduction of the Feywild Eladrin.

No, that's not what setting means. If I describe sitting in my office on the extra loveseat reading my copy of FRCS, then my office is the setting of my little narrative. I don't have to describe the entire continent on which I live for it to be a setting.

Without its wider world context, the vale is simply a small rural area of forest among mountains and hills, two small lakes, and a swamp. Genuinely curious, what would be the point of using the proper names here to replace the names in an other world setting with the same rural geography?

Cool. So in your opinion, noodling on Chris Perkins' observation that the Nentir Vale was originally meant to be placed in the Forgotten Realms isn't interesting to you, because only the extremely vague context around it which was developed specifically because it WASN'T included in the FR is what makes it interesting, then why are you cluttering up the thread with all kinds of posts that aren't on topic, which is a topic that you don't see the point of? It makes it considerably harder to sift through the posts and actually have a conversation on the topic with the people who DO see the point and do find it interesting.

 

[Misanthrope Prime]

So the exercise I'm asking about is not "look for some weird place that nobody knows or cares about to stick Nentir Vale in so that it doesn't actually happen to really be in the Forgotten Realms at all except on a technicality" I'm asking, "where in the real Forgotten Realms would it best fit.

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[Staffan]

I think I'd place it on the Sword Coast as it was depicted, I think, up until 5E. The area between Baldurs Gate and Daggerford is what I consider the Sword Coast. If IIRC Daggerford and beyond is considered the North, the Savage Frontier but its called the Sword Coast now in 5E which I never liked. Baldurs Gate to Daggerford south to north, and the Sword Coast/Sea of Sword's to the west up and to Anauroch/Darkhold to the east seems like a good place to place the Nentir Vale IMO. As I recall there was no central government in the area and each town village policed themselves, but the area was pretty lawless. Lots of places of danger in the area, and a lot of caravan activity for bandits to prey upon. Seems to fit well with the Points of Light concept.

I usually see The Sword Coast as synonymous with the area designated as "Western Heartlands" in pre-4e: south of Waterdeep, north of Amn, and west of Cormyr. So Baldur's Gate is approximately in the middle on the N/S axis.

As for location, I'd go with somewhere in the east, like the Narfell/Great Dale/Thesk region.

 

[R_J_K75]

I usually see The Sword Coast as synonymous with the area designated as "Western Heartlands" in pre-4e: south of Waterdeep, north of Amn, and west of Cormyr. So Baldur's Gate is approximately in the middle on the N/S axis.

That sounds about right. I'd cut it off with the southern border being before the Cloud Peaks. I'd suspect that it all depends on what edition/book you're reading.

As for location, I'd go with somewhere in the east, like the Narfell/Great Dale/Thesk region.

This is an area that I'm not very familiar with, I dont even really remember what supplement its in? Is it in the 3E Unapproachable East? I remember the area being mentioned minimally here in there through 2E but I stopped reading a lot of sourcebooks to the degree I did before 3E so I only read a few or bits and pieces. Just had more important things to worry about at the time than RPGs so I dropped off for a few years.