Spoilers Star Wars: Andor season 2

[Paul Farquhar]

The commercial ... I agree with you about what they were going for, but it's so cheesy it just makes me root for the Empire.

One of the themes Gilroy is exploring is "the banality of evil". It's done in retro style to avoid modern stylings. And its an info dump.

Take the rebels. I can get on board with them being comically incompetent: they're youngish, they've lost their leader, and are low on food and water. But after having spent two days literally trying kill each other (successfully in some cases), they decide to settle their disputes and pick the new leader with a game of space rock, paper, scissor?

Another theme is that rebellions are inherently hard to organise, made up of young idealistic hotheads as they are. In addition to the Planet of the Idiots, random rebel activities have caused Tay's problems, and will be manipulated into a terrorist atrocity on Ghorman (Saw Gerrera probably having something to do with this). Which will probably lead to Mon transitioning from banker to leader.

 

[briggart]

One of the themes Gilroy is exploring is "the banality of evil". It's done in retro style to avoid modern stylings. And its an info dump.

Another theme is that rebellions are inherently hard to organise, made up of young idealistic hotheads as they are. In addition to the Planet of the Idiots, random rebel activities have caused Tay's problems, and will be manipulated into a terrorist atrocity on Ghorman (Saw Gerrera probably having something to do with this). Which will probably lead to Mon transitioning from banker to leader.

And I think that they are both great themes. I want to see them explored in Andor.

But while some characters in the show felt like realistic people, some good, some flawed, some beyond redemption, others just felt like caricatures out of a Lego Star Wars cartoon or demons straight out of the Bad Place.

Coincidentally, today is the 80th anniversary of Liberation Day here in Italy. News, media and people in general will go all in on the civil war, the resistance, and the partisans. With all the good bits about the partisans fighting the Fascists and the Nazis, and the bad bits about them stealing, harming civilians and fighting each other due to misunderstandings, fog of war, incompetence, and political differences.

I like that the show is exploring these aspects, warts and all. I just find some of the stylistic choice they made to be really out of place with the overall tone.

 

[Zardnaar]

It's interesting. Better tgan first 3 episodes of S1, not as goid as best of S1.

Impending doom vibes

 

[Kaodi]

Foolishly I did not catch that the ziggurats indicated it was Yavin 4. Are we meant to infer that later on when the Rebellion is looking somewhere for their secret base Cassian pipes up and is like, "Hey, I know this one place in the middle of butt-eff nowhere," ?

Also I wonder whether we are going to learn even more about Dedra's backstory later on. They said her parents were criminals that died when she was three? Will we find out that they were actually working with/for someone we are familiar with?

 

[MarkB]

Foolishly I did not catch that the ziggurats indicated it was Yavin 4. Are we meant to infer that later on when the Rebellion is looking somewhere for their secret base Cassian pipes up and is like, "Hey, I know this one place in the middle of butt-eff nowhere," ?

More like, this is already somewhere the Rebels use as a remote rendezvous point and it will eventually grow to be more.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

They said her parents were criminals that died when she was three? Will we find out that they were actually working with/for someone we are familiar with

Gough is 45, so that would have been 42 years ago, before The Phantom Menace.

 

[Kaodi]

Gough is 45, so that would have been 42 years ago, before The Phantom Menace.

Maybe I misinterpreted something. I thought she said she was raised in an Imperial orphanage of some kind. Though if she was raised in a Republican orphanage and turned out this way that actually raises some interesting questions of its own.

 

[pukunui]

Maybe I misinterpreted something. I thought she said she was raised in an Imperial orphanage of some kind. Though if she was raised in a Republican orphanage and turned out this way that actually raises some interesting questions of its own.

She says she was raised in an “imperial kinderblock”, which means the character must be a lot younger than the actress playing her!

 

[Morrus]

Why does Star Wars not have any Star Wars noises any more?

 

[Zardnaar]

She says she was raised in an “imperial kinderblock”, which means the character must be a lot younger than the actress playing her!

I noticed that. The empires only 16 years old if that.

Dedra looks a lot older than that. Last few years in such a place at best.