D&D General 6E But A + Thread

[kermit4karate]

Are you sure? Do you really think the design team's guiding creative light is, "whatever the most people will pay for"?

Yes? I kinda do. I agree that both "I want to make the best game" and "I want it to appeal to the widest possible audience" aren't necessarily, at least aren't always, mutually exclusive.

 

[Micah Sweet]

5e was advertised as having options that are modular

I strongly believe 6e should not be advertised that way. Solid design intent would IMO serve their interests better in the long run.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Yes? I kinda do. I agree that both "I want to make the best game" and "I want it to appeal to the widest possible audience" aren't necessarily, at least aren't always, mutually exclusive.

Can you provide an example when this was true?

 

[AnotherGuy]

I strongly believe 6e should not be advertised that way. Solid design intent would IMO serve their interests better in the long run.

What's your reason for this?

 

[billd91]

I find it a little frustrating and a little sad that so much of this discussion is backward looking. But I suppose I should have guessed that.

Is it actually surprising? D&D's got 50 years of history and that means 50 years of meeting, setting, or otherwise conditioning people's preferences for what D&D should be. D&D's history is always going to affect what people expect and want out of it. It doesn't and can't really have a clean slate.

 

[CreamCloud0]

Rethinking class archetypes, including a willingness to cut, add, and/or combine past classes.

i've come to the conclusion for a while now that druid needs it's 'shapeshifter' aspect to be fully split off into it's own thing from it's 'nature caster' core.

 

[kermit4karate]

Can you provide an example when this was true?

Me at my job every day? I always want to do the best possible job. I also recognize that I have to work within parameters and constraints set by my employer, because I'm not the only person involved.

I think this applies to a great many things in life. People must often come to terms with seemingly competing objectives, and when these seemingly competing objectives are simultaneously met, that's when the real magic happens.

 

[Aldarc]

i've come to the conclusion druid needs it's 'shapeshifter' aspect to be fully split off into it's own thing from it's 'nature caster' core.

I could see that work for the Warden. Druid is the sort of "Primal" caster while the Warden leans more into the shapeshifter.

What I had in mind was more the continued existence of the different arcane casters. I know people disagree, but I don't necessarily think that Learned vs. Innate vs. Patron arcane necessarily are strong enough archetypes on their own merits. I would probably prefer stronger archetypes that gravitate more towards playstyles and themes. But I've spilt enough ink talking about that elsewhere.

 

[Scribe]

I could see that work for the Warden. Druid is the sort of "Primal" caster while the Warden leans more into the shapeshifter.

What I had in mind was more the continued existence of the different arcane casters. I know people disagree, but I don't necessarily think that Learned vs. Innate vs. Patron arcane necessarily are strong enough archetypes on their own merits. I would probably prefer stronger archetypes that gravitate more towards playstyles and themes. But I've spilt enough ink talking about that elsewhere.

I generally agree, got a link?

 

[dave2008]

It isn't. I was trying to be what I consider to be realistic for a game actually being made by the owners of the brand D&D.

It may not have been your intent, but it can definitely be perceived as gate keeping.

I mean who is to say what is a realistic option for the owners of the game.