Will the complexity pendulum swing back?

[Parmandur]

Another way to look at hit poontsor Force points and how they aren't metacurrency: they aren't methods for the player to influence the fiction, but a tool used at the level of the game designer to guide gameplay. D&D and Vall of Cthulu both use HP, but the game designers determine how those work within the fiction before the game is even picked up...not the players in play.

Thus Call of Cthulu Pulp has the math of the in-ficfion simulation tweaked, so the game has different results in play. At the design level, within the intended fiction.

Bennies allow a player to impact the fiction outside of a procedural design, meta to the fiction.

 

[Thomas Shey]

If they really exist in the setting, sure. Can you give me an example?

Liavek. Its a little obscure these days, but its a setting where people's luck is the source of all magical power in the end, and everyone has some (and a finite amount, at that).

 

[Thomas Shey]

Ahhh... The "what is a hit point?" argument. And given that hit points measure how beaten up you can get without getting injured or slowed. Plot armour in other words.

Confused since forever by it being repaired by healing magic and medical treatment.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Liavek. Its a little obscure these days, but its a setting where people's luck is the source of all magical power in the end, and everyone has some (and a finite amount, at that).

Ok. Should you be playing such a bespoke setting, it makes sense.

 

[Lucas Yew]

Yes please. (dire & desperate)

 

[Neonchameleon]

Confused since forever by it being repaired by healing magic and medical treatment.

But the "healing magic" required of course neither repairs even remotely significant injuries nor cures disease. You need spells like Regeneration and Lesser Restoration for that.

 

[Thomas Shey]

But the "healing magic" required of course neither repairs even remotely significant injuries nor cures disease. You need spells like Regeneration and Lesser Restoration for that.

I'm still not clear on what you're getting at here. Is it that hit point damage in D&Doids never translates into serious injury? Or...?

 

[Neonchameleon]

I'm still not clear on what you're getting at here. Is it that hit point damage in D&Doids never translates into serious injury? Or...?

And there are explicit healing spells for curing actual injuries.

 

[Thomas Shey]

And there are explicit healing spells for curing actual injuries.

Ah, okay. I just have to note you need to be specific that you're talking about "hit points" in the D&D sense; there are plenty of games that use what they call "hit points" but have them translate into actual injuries.