D&D 5E (2024) WotC Should Make 5.5E Specific Setting

[Maxperson]

Again.

The issues isn't that you can drop Dragonborn anywhere.

Its that you can drop Dragonborn anywhere

Because Dragonborn won't matter. You'd have to drop the PCs in an empty space where Dragonborn exist and at which point choosing Greyhawk as a setting won't matter.

You can drop an entire community of dragonborn into any spot in Greyhawk you want. I can drop them into the Greyhawk City if I want to. There zero need to find an empty space for them, because the level of detail on the Greyhawk setting is so minimal that almost anything can have communities almost anywhere without disrupting much of anything.

 

[Hussar]

But that's the same situation Gnome or Halflings have been in for Greyhawk itebtire existence. There is no "deep connection" for them, either. Indeed, the lack of depth is kind of one of Greyhawk's strengths, it is what the table makes of it.

That's not exactly the slam dunk you think it is.

Gnomes and halflings are the least popular species in the game, at least as far as we know. It's been argued in this thread that either could be dropped from the game or rolled up into other species for exactly this reason.

If I play an elf or a dwarf or a human in Greyhawk, I have a MOUNTAIN of material to draw from. That Greyhawk has largely ignored the smaller races isn't a plus.

 

[Maxperson]

But that's the same situation Gnome or Halflings have been in for Greyhawk itebtire existence. There is no "deep connection" for them, either. Indeed, the lack of depth is kind of one of Greyhawk's strengths, it is what the table makes of it.

Yeah. There's no deep connection for anything in Greyhawk. There's too little detail and lore for any deep connections.

 

[Maxperson]

That's not exactly the slam dunk you think it is.

Gnomes and halflings are the least popular species in the game, at least as far as we know. It's been argued in this thread that either could be dropped from the game or rolled up into other species for exactly this reason.

If I play an elf or a dwarf or a human in Greyhawk, I have a MOUNTAIN of material to draw from. That Greyhawk has largely ignored the smaller races isn't a plus.

Greyhawk doesn't have a mountain of material if taken in total, let alone for any given race. There's no mountain of material for elves, humans, dwarves, gnomes, dragons, dragonborn, or weasel men from alcatraz.

 

[Hussar]

Greyhawk doesn't have a mountain of material if taken in total, let alone for any given race. There's no mountain of material for elves, humans, dwarves, gnomes, dragons, dragonborn, or weasel men from alcatraz.

That's very much not true.

I suggest you head over to Canonfire! Canonfire! if you think that's true. There are literally thousands of pages of material for Greyhawk. Oerth Journal is up to issue 36 currently, at about a hundred (ish) pages per issue.

There is a TON of material for Greyhawk.

I mean, sure, compared to Forgotten Realms, it's small. But, that's because Forgotten Realms is probably the most detailed fantasy setting in existence. Tens of thousands of pages of material. Sure. But, compared to most fantasy worlds? Greyhawk is just as detailed as most and more detailed than many.

 

[Maxperson]

That's very much not true.

I suggest you head over to Canonfire! Canonfire! if you think that's true. There are literally thousands of pages of material for Greyhawk. Oerth Journal is up to issue 36 currently, at about a hundred (ish) pages per issue.

There is a TON of material for Greyhawk.

I'm not counting third party content. There's a ton of content for just about every setting if you count third party content, but third party content is nothing more than you or I making stuff up that isn't really Greyhawk and then putting it out there for folks who like it to use. If I open that journal and see something I like, I can opt to put it in the sparse official Greyhawk content I might use, but it doesn't then become part of the official Greyhawk setting.

The official setting content, the only content that can generally be said to be Greyhawk, is very sparse,

 

[Paul Farquhar]

You can't have characters with deep history and connection to the setting without actually HAVING a deep history and connection to the setting

I really can’t understand why you think this matters.

Last time I played an elf, in Witchlight, I encountered no other elves. This in no way impeded my ability to role play an elf. I used their long lifespan as a hook. Last time I played a dwarf, in an Eberron-set adventure, I encountered no other dwarves. Not an issue.

 

[Hussar]

I really can’t understand why you think this matters.

Last time I played an elf, in Witchlight, I encountered no other elves. This in no way impeded my ability to role play an elf. I used their long lifespan as a hook. Last time I played a dwarf, in an Eberron-set adventure, I encountered no other dwarves. Not an issue.

And that's FANTASTIC.

For you.

I want the option. I want the choice. Why is that such a huge ask?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

And that's FANTASTIC.

For you.

I want the option. I want the choice. Why is that such a huge ask?

I still don't understand. What do you want to be able to choose? In both the cases I mention, and in practically every other adventure ever, the PCs were a long way from home. They are not going to run into any relatives.