D&D 5E (2024) The Artificer. Class Review And Thoughts.

[Sulicius]

That's not really much of a problem until level 14.

RAW you should have better items than that.

What do you mean? RAW you should have better items than that? The variance within rarities is crazy.

 

[Zardnaar]

What do you mean? RAW you should have better items than that? The variance within rarities is crazy.

Page 218 DMG.

Artificers can get rare wondrous items level 14. Uncommon 10.

By level 14 you should have 2 or 3 rares already, 1 or 2 very rare and 2 legendary in the party you may or may not have.

By the time you get rares spells like simuacrum and Conjure Celestial are turning up.

 

[Sulicius]

But the difference between an item the DM hands out, or even rolls up, compared to one a PC can choose is the real difference.

 

[Zardnaar]

But the difference between an item the DM hands out, or even rolls up, compared to one a PC can choose is the real difference.

True. It comes quite late and you cant pick weapons.

Theyre not a primary caster though so theres other broken things going on so their items dont really make much difference imho.

If youre banning artificers at 14 may as well ban all the primary casters while your at it. Warlocks may be fine.

13s the level where things really go pear shaped imho.

 

[Horwath]

But the difference between an item the DM hands out, or even rolls up, compared to one a PC can choose is the real difference.

if the DM hands out are not items that PCs want to use, then it's the DM problem.

why bother in writing down magic items for PCs that will be glorified gold bars that will end up as "vendor trash"?

 

[Zardnaar]

if the DM hands out are not items that PCs want to use, then it's the DM problem.

why bother in writing down magic items for PCs that will be glorified gold bars that will end up as "vendor trash"?

Its more like
+2 weapon
+1 weapond +1d4 or 1d6 damage
Vicious weapon +2d6

And theyre all rare.

Or +1 chain mail also rare.

 

[Horwath]

Its more like
+2 weapon
+1 weapond +1d4 or 1d6 damage
Vicious weapon +2d6

those are all viable weapon choices if they are on weapons that PCs use.

And theyre all rare.

Or +1 chain mail also rare.

heh, I dont see anyone making +1 chain mail, at least in 5E armor design.
magic armors(+X) are only;

1. studded leather
2. halfplate or breastplate if you care about stealth
3. fullplate

 

[Sulicius]

True. It comes quite late and you cant pick weapons.

Theyre not a primary caster though so theres other broken things going on so their items dont really make much difference imho.

If youre banning artificers at 14 may as well ban all the primary casters while your at it. Warlocks may be fine.

13s the level where things really go pear shaped imho.

I am not banning anything. I am just not buying this book.

 

[Zardnaar]

those are all viable weapon choices if they are on weapons that PCs use.



heh, I dont see anyone making +1 chain mail, at least in 5E armor design.
magic armors(+X) are only;

1. studded leather
2. halfplate or breastplate if you care about stealth
3. fullplate

Only if PCs get a choice. Ive put in things lije magical brestplates and they've used it.

I try not to put junk in but they don't automatically get the best. Or the weaker armor has done ability thats useful.

I allow crafting. No one bothered.