Picture is worth a thousand words

Teflon Billy said:

Lamest. Advice. Ever.

I'm very tattooed and have been since I started at 16.

A false tattoo is for a false person. If you want to get a tattoo (I would hope) that you aren't the kind of person who would settle for what is essentially makeup.

Trust your instincts. Make sure you choose well, because it will be (more-or-less) permanent.

The time between when I choose an image and when I go get the ink actaully done is 3 months. If I change anything about the design, it resets the clock to 3 months.

I have yet to regret any of my tattoos.

Here is the only one that has made it into a tattoo magazine.

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What about the "Help Me" tattoo? That didn't make the cut?

Tats are different for different people. Some like 'em, some don't, some are indifferent. And for every cool peice of body art, there's probably a dozen giggling drunk 19 year olds who get tatoos in languages and don't even know what they mean.

Story related to that, a Chinese tatoo artist once put on a girl's belly button: "Insert General Tso's Chicken Here"

Everyone's body is their own playground.

Umbran said:

Right. So all those people who like the idea of body-mods, but who work in professions that simply don't allow it are all "false people". Good one on the sweeping generalization, TB.

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In defense of Teflon Billy (as if he'd need that): false tattoos are for false people sounds about right to me, and it's not generalization.

If you're working at a place where tattoos aren't allowed (and btw, AFAIK a tattoo's only a reason for dismissal if the tattoo's visible when wearing a shirt), then a temporary tattoo (and that's what we're talking about here, or am I mistaken?) would be the same for your employer as a real one.

Turanil said:

I think this qualifies for the off topic discussion.

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Not if soulforge wants to show the tattoo to his players when gaming

Flyspeck23 said:

In defense of Teflon Billy (as if he'd need that): false tattoos are for false people sounds about right to me, and it's not generalization.

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Oh, yes it is. Do you know all the people who might wear false or temproary tatoos and all their motivatiosn and personalities? If not, you are making a generalization. Some generalizations are valid, some aren't. Now, try to give me one good reason to think the one you and TB are promoting isn't just elitist nonsense?

If you're working at a place where tattoos aren't allowed (and btw, AFAIK a tattoo's only a reason for dismissal if the tattoo's visible when wearing a shirt)

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Right, and we live in a society that sticks to these reasonable guidelines all the time, so that tatoos, piercings, gender, race, sexual preference, and religion are likewise never the basis for dismissal? Get real.

... then a temporary tattoo (and that's what we're talking about here, or am I mistaken?) would be the same for your employer as a real one.

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Right, so all those folks who get a nice long summer vaction and would like to have some decoration for that time, they're all "false people".

And all those folks who love body art, but realize that they can never be satisfied with any particular image forever, they're false too. Liking variety apparently makes you a false person.

Oh, and a whole mess of folks on the Indian sub-continent are false people, because they use henna instead of a needle.

You honestly expect me to swallow this? As Kamakaze Midget says - each person's body is their own playground. You should be allowed to call someone else a "false person" just because what they choose to do on their body is temporary?

[eidt: Correction - my apologies. You are allowed to say whatever you like about folks with temporary tatoos. Just like folks are allowed to look at TB's tats and call him "white trash" for them, and think he's an ignorant clod. But being allowed doesn't make it any the less wrong-headed, now does it?]

How does this look?

Moved to Art/Miniatures Forum, because it was a request for art.

Let's also be civil about the tattoo discussion, please. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind the "false tattoo for false person" supposition, because it doesn't follow to me, but I'm not going to argue, either.

For a first-timer, a false tattoo might be perfect. See if he can handle the reactions of others -- or even himself.

Myself, I've never gotten a tattoo for one big reason: I know I'm changing all the time. Things I thought were cool in college, I think are silly now.

Ultimately, everytime the idea of getting a tattoo comes to mind, I think of the several 70+ year old men with tattoos that I seen during my life. I've never seen one that looked good. Some were faded, but not all. Each idea I've had, I think would've looked right on me at the time, but when I pictured my grandfather (who I strongly resemble) with it, it didn't work.

So, something temporary, even 5 or ten years worth would be fine, but I'm pretty sure I won't be the same person in a decade that I am today. I think any ornamentation I have should reflect who I am at the time.

Umbran said:

Right. So all those people who like the idea of body-mods, but who work in professions that simply don't allow it are all "false people". Good one on the sweeping generalization, TB.

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You have to understand that from TB's standpoint getting ink is a lifestyle choice not a casual decision or trendy fad. It's not something that should be "played at" or taken lightly.

Someone who wants the benefits of a tattoo without being willing to make the lifelong sacrifice that is required in actually having ink permanently etched into their skin is an insult to the beliefs of those who view being tattoed as a lifestyle.

It's not too different from someone who claims to be a Christian, but who can never be bothered to actually live by the tenents of the Christian faith.

soulforge, you might want to try a google search on renaissance painters & angels. Angels (and other bibilical imagery) were very popular with the classical artists & there are some stunning pieces out there.


Just to get you started...

Saint Michael Slaying the Devil - Guido Reni

http://witcombe.sbc.edu/baroquetheory/images/renisaintmichael.jpg

The Archangel Michael Piercing the Dragon - Martin Schongauer

http://images.clevelandart.org/oci/magnify/1952/1952.99.jpg

Tetsubo and LGodamus, where did those pictures come from?