Off To War... Recriutment/Discussion

Myth and Legend said:

One level of Dragonslayer grants you caster progression+bab+fear immunity, this is what i can think off the top of my head. 18 caster levels is hardly "not focusing on magic" though - you will get 9th level spells! I expect your BAB to suffer somewhat, i'll have to do the math though. D12 is great, and you will need to rely on spells for AC since you don't have any means to ignore ASF. But with spells like Greater Luminous Armor your Abjurant Champion class can really shine.

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I'm not entirely sure dragonslayer would be thematically appropriate for someone who is slowly becoming a half-Dragon. >.> Also, my monk stuff grants Cha to AC... so... by pumping my CHA for DC's and the like, I'm also increasing my AC.

And Abjurant champion was definite meant to shore up Aidan's inability to wear armor... since he's supposed to be able to mix it up in melee. But, I definitely need to get Aidan's BAB up... since I need +5 for AB, and I have about 3 levels to get from 2 BAB to five. I'm thinking I may need to sacrifice another level of spellcasting for a full BAB class.

I don't quite follow Why do you need a BAB of +5??

Dragon Disiple doesn't have a BAB requirement.

HM

EDIT: have you seen all you get for taking one more lvl in monk?? +1 BAB, Flurry becomes +0/+0, +10' movement, and more importantly +2 save vs enchanments(i.e. Sleep)

HolyMan said:

I don't quite follow Why do you need a BAB of +5??

Dragon Disiple doesn't have a BAB requirement.

HM

EDIT: have you seen all you get for taking one more lvl in monk?? +1 BAB, Flurry becomes +0/+0, +10' movement, and more importantly +2 save vs enchanments(i.e. Sleep)

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Holyman, Abjurant Champion has a BAB requirement. It's a requirement of +5 BAB. And yeah, I am thinking I might go with a third level now, but I'm not sure. I wanted to start getting him some casting, but more monk stuff might help too, particularly the BAB/Flurry.

So your minimum lvl for DD is 6th because you need Know(arcana) 8 ranks, and AC only has 5 lvls (hope I am remembering that right).

You go Monk4/Sorcerer1/Dragon D.3/Abjure Champ5/Dragon D.7

Not much faster as monk lvls 3 and 4 each give you a +1 BAB unless you can find a caster class that grants both a +1 BAB and Spell progression at first lvl (which I would most likely veto) but your build I was looking for how you wanted to explain away the getting knw(arcana) and speak draconic into your story.

HolyMan said:

So your minimum lvl for DD is 6th because you need Know(arcana) 8 ranks, and AC only has 5 lvls (hope I am remembering that right).

You go Monk4/Sorcerer1/Dragon D.3/Abjure Champ5/Dragon D.7

Not much faster as monk lvls 3 and 4 each give you a +1 BAB unless you can find a caster class that grants both a +1 BAB and Spell progression at first lvl (which I would most likely veto) but your build I was looking for how you wanted to explain away the getting knw(arcana) and speak draconic into your story.

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Hm... that could work. However, my houseruled class has Arcana as a crossclass skill. So, unless I find something to make it a class skill again, I won't have 8 ranks of Knw(Arcana) until later.

Theroc said:

One thing I was wondering, HM. Could I sacrifice my familiar to instead maintain parts of Aidan's Monk abilities or something? Familiars make me paranoid about getting pwned and losing levels because something nailed my 'weak link'. Bit rambly as it's late. I have both strong roleplaying tendencies and powergaming tendencies... so I am always trying to strike a balance.

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Wasn't sure if you caught this question, HM. I'm not fond of familiars, lol. Too big a risk for me... for little reward AFAIK.

Nay that is to easy to explain away. Take it now as a cross class skill and get 3 ranks, just say you have been watching Lora and the others. Listening to them talk of spells and such in some down time here or there.

And take 5 ranks when you hit Sorcerer level 1. Again for the past like weeks or months you have asked questions saw spells at work. Encounter magical monsters etc.

And you may change your familiar out for a like feat: Alertness, Toughness, Great Fortitude, anything a familiar would have granted you. Subject to approval of course.

Good luck deciding I know this is a big deal so take your time you may level up whenever you wish.

HM

EDIT: Should have been a but in there- but you won't get experience points past your next level because you may not level up twice.

HolyMan said:

And you may change your familiar out for a like feat: Alertness, Toughness, Great Fortitude, anything a familiar would have granted you. Subject to approval of course.

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Don't familiar improve as their master gains levels? Or is that only for sorcerer levels?

They improve on like Natural AC, Intelligence, and HD, but the main benefit you get from them stays the same.

The easiest way is to take a feat and lose the ability to summon a familiar now or at later levels.

HM

Your dm is really excited!!

For a few weeks now I have been sad, I have been working on Harkon Manor. As I couldn't decide if i should make it walled or open, should I make it dark and gloomy or a happy place. All these questions and I was looking for a good manor shot because I knew I wouldn't be able to describe everything and get it across and today I found my inspiration

Castle Eilean Donan (i.e. Harkon Manor) you can google some images I think you all wil love it as much as me. One pic below.

Ok now I have alot to do to finally start this next part of the Off to War story, and in that is my next problem. FORMAT

Original my ideal was to have Off to War be the main thread (politics, RPing, and character development) and the sub-quest to be the action (combat, skill challenges, and such) But the Harkon Manor part is both. And along with that there are muiltple levels and areas in the keep, a new handful of NPCs, and when the threads merge (i.e. Lord Bairan arrives) , but I am ranting I will solve them some how.

Now this is where all of you come in I need say this weekend and my two days off to get ready. Until then as not to terribly slow down Spider's Path before it finally comes to a close I would like you all to RP the walk towads Harkon but away from the two NPCs if possible. They will be leading you from a little way ahead, so you can talk amongst yourselves.

I am very excited to start this next part (that I had thought about since we started all those months ago. Just didn't plan.) Certain questions will be answered and new ones will come forth.

Any questions I will be on everyday (as always) and we need advancement for those who leveled up so i will be around for that.

I am excited it's 1am I need some sleep before work, Nite all.


HM