Off To War... Recriutment/Discussion

[Myth and Legend]

Enough to one-shot with a Ray of Stupidity spell Well that spell is broken.. Imagine a maximized, empowered spell like that coming from a caster that had just used a quickened true strike - BAM! You are dead. No save.

 

[Sphyh]

hey guys. im vancouver at the winter olympics doin mission work. just NPC me for the week and ill back on around the 20th. thanks and good luck!

 

[HolyMan]

Experience Feb1st- Feb15th

Myth and Legend              445
Sphyh                        215
ghostcat                     310
Theroc                       260
Dragonwriter                 260
Frozen Messiah               380

Congrats - ghostcat and Theroc for hitting Level 3
and to Sphyh for reaching 2nd Level

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Tharivol's race?? Remember this is a high human enviroment but did we say he was a half-elf?? [/sblock]

 

[HolyMan]

Hey Sphyh hope you are having a great time, you know you could have held the Winter Games here I think we have gotten more snow than Vancover.

Will be looking up and finalizing that prestige class first thing tommorrow (first on the list anyway) So you know what direction to build towards it, as you level up.

HM

 

[Dragonwriter]

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Yep, he was half-elf. Also part of the justification that my duskblade's fighting style is so different from the standard.
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[HolyMan]

Ok checking the soilder prestige class again and I believe it is good to go, it will fit nicely in Off to War. And we can go back and remeber the day Onesimus signed up to kind of get that requestite out of the way.

And speaking of Prestige classes-- Theroc your plan on Dragon Disiple still in the works?? I have been looking up things to help people along and for you I was thinking of someone teaching you about magic, to get you that Knowledge(arcana) 8 Ranks. What I need to know is progression (i.e. should I start now or do I have some time), but then again hanging around Lora, Trinham, and Jareth could justify at least 1 or 2 ranks in that skill for now. Of course it is your character your call maybe he was really, really paying attention to all their talk of spells and such, or watching as Lora studied. (etc.)

Speaking Draconic now if you put a skill point into it instead of someone teaching you we could say it starts coming out of you in fits or someone says something in Draconic and you understand but don't know how or why.(A page out of Robert Jordan's the Wheel of Time [RIP])

Cast arcane spells unprepared guess you will just have to take a class lvl in something is that what Abjure Champ is for??

Ok I am off to bed big day of posting tommorrow as I am off and will be spending the day at the local coffee shop.

 

[Theroc]

Ok checking the soilder prestige class again and I believe it is good to go, it will fit nicely in Off to War. And we can go back and remeber the day Onesimus signed up to kind of get that requestite out of the way.

And speaking of Prestige classes-- Theroc your plan on Dragon Disiple still in the works?? I have been looking up things to help people along and for you I was thinking of someone teaching you about magic, to get you that Knowledge(arcana) 8 Ranks. What I need to know is progression (i.e. should I start now or do I have some time), but then again hanging around Lora, Trinham, and Jareth could justify at least 1 or 2 ranks in that skill for now. Of course it is your character your call maybe he was really, really paying attention to all their talk of spells and such, or watching as Lora studied. (etc.)

Speaking Draconic now if you put a skill point into it instead of someone teaching you we could say it starts coming out of you in fits or someone says something in Draconic and you understand but don't know how or why.(A page out of Robert Jordan's the Wheel of Time [RIP])

Cast arcane spells unprepared guess you will just have to take a class lvl in something is that what Abjure Champ is for??

Ok I am off to bed big day of posting tommorrow as I am off and will be spending the day at the local coffee shop.

I was planning on spells and the like coming naturally to him without his understanding of them initially.

I haven't planned out the whole build, but my current plan is taking a level in Sorcerer NOW... as for Kn: Arcana, I was planning on having Aidan ask Lora: "Why can I do this?" after he ends up casting a few times. Sorcerer immediately qualifies a character for Spontaneous Arcane Casting.


Abjurant Champion was originally picked for mostly mechanical purposes as 'filler' that is very helpful and can easily fluffed to fit Aidan. It's a full progressions PrC that would progress Aidan's BAB and casting so it wouldn't bog down either of his vital scores, as well as granting bonuses to some defensive spells(which I'd RP as his skin abruptly thickening or other dragon-like features) Also; Kn: Arcana is a class skill for an Abjurant Champion, so Aidan would be able to progress that without spending crossclass levels on it.

As for Wheel of Time... Aidan was actually partially inspired in my mind by Rand Al'Thor, from the Wheel of time. >.> Simple farmboy... who gets magic powers... yeah. Not a particularly new thing, but one of my favorite archetypes, as it enables me to be ignorant of a setting and remain in character!

One thing I was wondering, HM. Could I sacrifice my familiar to instead maintain parts of Aidan's Monk abilities or something? Familiars make me paranoid about getting pwned and losing levels because something nailed my 'weak link'. Bit rambly as it's late. I have both strong roleplaying tendencies and powergaming tendencies... so I am always trying to strike a balance.

I'm also curious what advice Myth might have for me with constructing Aidan mechanically.

 

[Myth and Legend]

Theroc tell me:

What is your ideal end-game situation? What do you want to emphasize on?

- a maximum BAB with less emphasis on spells?
- maximum caster lvl with less emphasis on BAB?
- somewhere in between (versatility) with lots of spells per day but not that many high-leveled spells?

Also, how important are saves, armor and HD?

Describe your ideal lvl 20 situation and i'll see what i can conjure

 

[Theroc]

Well, part of my plan was focusing my spell list on defensive type spells(probably taking some feats to flavor dragon-like, such as Draconic Breath from Complete Arcane[I'd be consulting HM on it before attempting to take it, obviously) so that the spells themselves can be converted into a breath weapon, as well as perhaps a reserve feat.

As for the end game, I was looking more for magic to amplify Aidan's natural abilities without sacrificing TOO much spellcasting. The little plan I have in mind would leave Aidan with the equivalent of 18 sorcerer levels in casting. I haven't gotten around to poking at how much BAB I'd have, though.

So, I guess the first thing on your list, possibly leaning a bit towards the third. I don't want Aidan focusing primarily on magic, but I do want it to be somewhat important to him in some respect.

Importance of Saves/Armor/HD?
Well, DD has d12's for HD, and with HM's houserule it seems incredibly well suited to most of my plan for Aidan's progress... greatly boosting his staying power in a fight. Saves... I don't want sleeped anymore... but by level 20, Aidan should be immune to sleep as a half-dragon anyway. Armor - I'd rather avoid getting hit too much, but I needn't be over the top. Aidan is still primarily a 'monk' in my basic desire for him.

Edit:
My current class progression plan:
Monk 2/Sorcerer(whatevever gets me to 5 BAB)/Abjurant Champion 5/DD 10

Though, I just realized this plan has a fatal flaw: I won't get to BAB +5 with 3 sorcerer levels, which ruins that plan, so I will definitely need a bit of help, unless I can find a way to increase my BAB outside level progression(which isn't possible RAW)

 

[Myth and Legend]

One level of Dragonslayer grants you caster progression+bab+fear immunity, this is what i can think off the top of my head. 18 caster levels is hardly "not focusing on magic" though - you will get 9th level spells! I expect your BAB to suffer somewhat, i'll have to do the math though. D12 is great, and you will need to rely on spells for AC since you don't have any means to ignore ASF. But with spells like Greater Luminous Armor your Abjurant Champion class can really shine.