D&D 5E magic ponies for everyone

Kobold Stew

Last Guy in the Airlock
Supporter
So the Paladin spell Find Steed appeals to one of my players a lot, so I am looking for ways in the rules for a non-paladin to be able to get one (DM says so is of course always available, but I'm looking at the rules we have so far). Here's what I see:

1. 10th level Bard with magical secrets can learn the spell to give herself a pony.
2. a wizard's wish spell can duplicate the effect of the spell, but technically only for herself (though it would take an awfully mean dm not to allow the spell to transfer to another character).
3. once we have scroll-writing rules, a paladin can make a scroll and it could be cast with a chance of failure by a non-paladin (following the rules in the 5b DM pdf). A 13th level rogue thief would also be able to cast it without chance of failure.

Aside: will all casters be able to write scrolls? Will Scribe Scroll be a new feat in the DMG?

4. if it were a ritual, then there would be other ways for Find Steed to be cast by warlocks and ritual-get takers. But it's not.

Aside 2: this seems to me to be a missed opportunity for the specialist wizards: that if they find a spell on another list, they can transfer it to their spell book and cast it as a ritual if it is from their specialty school. This seems to me more useful than the reduced writing time they get at level 2. But that's perhaps able to be broken in ways I've not imagined.

In any case -- here is my question: what other ways are there for a player to get access to a spell (such as Find Steed) that's only on another class's spell list when it's not a ritual?
 

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I'd just make it a ritual and let it go. Find familiar is a ritual; I'm not sure why find steed isn't one. It seems like the perfect type of spell to be a ritual.
 

Crothian

First Post
If I had a group that wanted magic ponies for everyone then I would have the first adventure they go on be a service for the Paladin's association or whatever group he is from. They would reward the group with enough scrolls for everyone. I think it would be a neat idea and I like it when the players come up with simple things like this.
 

Paraxis

Explorer
I was expecting a thread on playing magic ponies as variant races. What kind of person wants to enslave magic ponies and ride them?

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Kobold Stew

Last Guy in the Airlock
Supporter
I'd just make it a ritual and let it go. Find familiar is a ritual; I'm not sure why find steed isn't one. It seems like the perfect type of spell to be a ritual.

Honestly, that's my instinct too. It does seem like a reasonable ritual, especially since the casting time is so long anyways (10 minutes).
 

Honestly, that's my instinct too. It does seem like a reasonable ritual, especially since the casting time is so long anyways (10 minutes).

It's not a ritual spell because 1) it already takes 10 minutes, and 2) because it's a paladin-only spell--and paladins aren't ritual casters. :)

I don't think there's anything broken about making it one, but it makes sense that it's not.

Of course, RAW, there's no point to making it a ritual, because paladins aren't on the list of classes offered by the Ritual Caster feat. But again, I don't think that'd be broken to houserule.
 

MoonSong

Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
Honestly, that's my instinct too. It does seem like a reasonable ritual, especially since the casting time is so long anyways (10 minutes).
The reason it ain't a ritual is paladins aren't ritual casters and it is a paladin exclusive spell.
 

GameDoc

Explorer
It's also not a ritual to allow the paladin the option to dismiss and resummon the mount with a degree of ease and frequency.
 

steeldragons

Steeliest of the dragons
Epic
I was expecting a thread on playing magic ponies as variant races. What kind of person wants to enslave magic ponies and ride them?

Certainly not! Not when you can just kill them instead. :]

[That is not to be taken as any kind of condoning of animal cruelty. Just tough-in-cheek good natured hatedain for the MPP.]
 

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