Third Party Character Creation iOS App Removed

Sunseeker · Feb 14, 2015

I understand takedown notices if WOTC has the intention to release a character creation app soon(tm*soon trademarked Blizzard ent.). I could understand C&D notices if WOTC already had a character creation app available. But they don't. As far as I'm aware their intended product will never be completed. There is no word of a replacement on the horizon, or any plan to do so. At best this is equivalent to C&D notices for fan-fiction. It doesn't accomplish anything but rile up the customer base.

GMforPowergamers · Feb 14, 2015

shidaku said:
I understand takedown notices if WOTC has the intention to release a character creation app soon(tm*soon trademarked Blizzard ent.). I could understand C&D notices if WOTC already had a character creation app available. But they don't. As far as I'm aware their intended product will never be completed. There is no word of a replacement on the horizon, or any plan to do so. At best this is equivalent to C&D notices for fan-fiction. It doesn't accomplish anything but rile up the customer base.

um, so if I own a book series (and I hope to someday be published) but couldn't put out a toy line, or video game does that mean anyone could put those things out for my characters??? Is my inability to produce something that I have the right to give you the right to take that from me? Does it change if I were rich(witch I am far from)

Shasarak · Feb 14, 2015

Morrus said:
Nobody has actually shared one of these C&Ds yet, and others have indicated that what they actually received was simply a friendly email asking that they respect WotC's trademarks, so it's not entirely clear what is happening. Hopefully somebody will share one soon!

Is there any essential difference in the end result between a friendly email and an official CnD?

Morrus · Feb 14, 2015

Shasarak said:
Is there any essential difference in the end result between a friendly email and an official CnD?

Apparently not. Both result in people announcing that they received a C&D! Since we don't know what these things actually said, all we can do is guess.

GMforPowergamers · Feb 14, 2015

Morrus said:
Apparently not. Both result in people announcing that they received a C&D! Since we don't know what these things actually said, all we can do is guess.

It's almost like WotC could threatened to send leg breakers and hitmen, and not gotten WORSE reactions...

trancejeremy · Feb 14, 2015

GMforPowergamers said:
um, so if I own a book series (and I hope to someday be published) but couldn't put out a toy line, or video game does that mean anyone could put those things out for my characters??? Is my inability to produce something that I have the right to give you the right to take that from me? Does it change if I were rich(witch I am far from)

It doesn't give that person a right, but how does it harm the company if they have no competing product to offer?

If anything, character generators and such help Hasbro because it gets people playing the game, which in turn sells more books.

I mean, look at Star Trek. There are no Star Trek shows on TV but CBS not only allows fans to make their own shows, they even let fans form non-profit corporations and run kickstarters for them. Because they realize that allowing fan stuff only helps their brand in the long run.

DaveDash · Feb 14, 2015

WOTC clearly plan to make money off D&D via licensing. They don't really care about selling books now that the core 3 are out, they want to sell more licenses.

In that context the C&Ds make sense.

Jester David · Feb 14, 2015

GMforPowergamers said:
um, so if I own a book series (and I hope to someday be published) but couldn't put out a toy line, or video game does that mean anyone could put those things out for my characters??? Is my inability to produce something that I have the right to give you the right to take that from me? Does it change if I were rich(witch I am far from)

If someone made a free fan video game of you book, would you really mind?
Do you really think a free game, even a well made one, would hurt sales of an official game?

I don't entirely fault WotC for their actions. But it'd be nice if they spelt out what we could or could not do, rather than finding out when a C+D is sent. Making software is time consuming and I'm sure the developer wished he hadn't wasted his time.

GMforPowergamers · Feb 14, 2015

trancejeremy said:
It doesn't give that person a right,

so they have no right to use other peoples IP, copyright, and trademark..

but how does it harm the company if they have no competing product to offer?

well that depends... in my example, where I wrote a book (still waiting I'll let everyone know if I get published) I could loose a lot from someone else taking my characters and my setting and using it. I could loose the right to sue people who do other things I do plan on doing, or worse it could turn into me loseing my fandom to someone else...

now for wotc, I am sure they would loose money from selling the rights and/or there own. It doesn't have to be today either... if they want to put out there own app for $0.99 but it wont be ready for a year, then stoping this one now means that a year from now no one has one yet...

If anything, character generators and such help Hasbro because it gets people playing the game, which in turn sells more books.

I hear this all the time, but it always rings hollow, I don't know anyone who read a character generator, then go out and buy the book.

I mean, look at Star Trek. There are no Star Trek shows on TV but CBS not only allows fans to make their own shows, they even let fans form non-profit corporations and run kickstarters for them. Because they realize that allowing fan stuff only helps their brand in the long run.

and if someone wanted to make a toy, or novel, or phaser toy I bet they would not be so nice.... if someone wants to write an adventure they wont mind... even if you put it on kickstarter...

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