dave2008
Legend
That is correct
WotC New WotC Statement on Orion Black
Thanks. That's not too far off from the bits and pieces I had put together.
Honestly, sounds to me like a story with no bad guys and no good guys. WotC could do more for diversity and may have partially hired Orion for diversity's sake. OTOH, Orion's complaint's about not being able to publicly post things that aren't aligned with the company and not getting enough attention as a contractor sounds like someone who might be a little naive about working with larger corporate entities. The biggest rifts seems more like a business culture mismatch than anything else.
Myrdin Potter
Hero
Not true, if this becomes an investor relations problem and a brand problem, corporate will micromanage.
FrozenNorth
Hero
OOC, any products in particular Orion worked on? Might be interested in taking a look.
Raduin711
Hero
Orion's account paints a fairly grim picture of corporate culture at WOTC, hence their flippant response. Here is the previous thread about it:
D&D 5E - Orion Black No Longer a D&D Designer [UPDATED!]
WotC employee Orion Black announced yesterday that they were no longer working for the company or on D&D, citing the corporate culture at the company. "It's July 3th and I no longer work for Wizards of the Coast. I no longer work on D&D, the little that I did. This is going to be a long...
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neobolts
Explorer
Do not go on Twitter unless you want the dumbest hot takes from all corners. I'm used to the bigots (that Morrus rightfully shows the door), but there is also some ridiculous performance outage out there. I'm socially liberal, but some of ideas floated are not helpful or substantive. Don't tell me how kobolds are being marginalized, that's not "it". I'm also seeing minor publishers and podcasters with big egos. They'd have you believe WotC is dead to 99% of fans, but that doesn't square with sales at all.
Ralif Redhammer
Legend
The chances of a company admitting fault (and liability) in a situation like this seems pretty unlikely. I'm sure all sorts of lawyers went over this first. Though it's certainly undermined by not directly contacting Orion T. Black first, this is still a stronger, more specific statement than I would've expected. But as others have said, the test of it will be what actions Wizards actually takes. Considering Orion T. Black's response, though, I'd say that it's unlikely that Wizards will ever work with them again.
I think you misunderstand. Orion Black said that they were passed over for projects. I'm saying that's unlikely to have been Hasbro's fault.
The solution could come from a Hasbro suit coming in and saying, "Stop being idiots and get some real diversity in here!" But how far up the chain you have to go to find the problems is not that high - you could find the problem and solution within WotC itself, and if you did, Hasbro would be fine with that.
Myrdin Potter
Hero
I agree in the past, but the current actions and responses being taken do have more of a corporate stamp. Hence getting the product name wrong in the disclaimer. That would include micromanaging staff now.
Unfortunately, corporations and professionals get punished for apologizing because it can suggest legal liability. Hence, the silence.
Every once in while, the political wisdom kicks in, that if all else fails, admit guilt and "repent".
There must be a better way for our culture to deal with these situations?
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