D&D 5E What is the appeal of the weird fantasy races?

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I dont think they should be banned. I think they should be normalized, by reverting the mistake that is the 4e 'design change' they applied to Tiefling.

Ok, but here is the thing.

Physical appearance is so utterly trivial to change that it isn't even an issue. You want a Tiefling with cat eye's and that is it? Feel free. Shaggy green fur? Sure.

Altering your appearance is the most basic of basic things you can do, so it is not something to make a big deal out of. And some people like the change, they like the new aesthetic and the standardized look.

And, just to reiterate what a different poster said, they aren't going to be "normalized" by the people talking about the "weird races" because everything that isn't an Elf, Human, Halfling, Dwarf or occasionally Gnome is "weird". Same to pre-4e Tieflings according to this crowd. So your solution wouldn't even do anything.
 

No, its solved for me personally, by using Sword Coast Adventurers Guide: Tiefling Varient Appearance rule. My issue stems 100% from the fact they turned what was a personal choice in terms of appearance, into 'you all get to be for all intents and purposes devils, to everyone who ever sees you, the end.'.

Okay, but again (problem with posting individually like this) that isn't at all involved with the issues we've been discussing. And, like you said, has easy to implement solutions.
 

Ok, but here is the thing.

Physical appearance is so utterly trivial to change that it isn't even an issue. You want a Tiefling with cat eye's and that is it? Feel free. Shaggy green fur? Sure.

Altering your appearance is the most basic of basic things you can do, so it is not something to make a big deal out of. And some people like the change, they like the new aesthetic and the standardized look.

And, just to reiterate what a different poster said, they aren't going to be "normalized" by the people talking about the "weird races" because everything that isn't an Elf, Human, Halfling, Dwarf or occasionally Gnome is "weird". Same to pre-4e Tieflings according to this crowd. So your solution wouldn't even do anything.

The only distinction I'll make is that pre 4e, Tiefling did not have as much stigma in my experience, as they do since the change.

That's all. :)
 



And that's been reversed, so it's not a problem anymore. Baator isn't a part of Eberron anymore.
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It's still problematic for darksun, potentially =spelljammer, & tbh eberron as well because Asmodeus as so much setting specific lore attached to him & so much of that lore is linked to the planescape planes. It's not like a substitution that doesn't try to force all that couldn't fit either.
Asmodeus
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Yes it's better than when they were printing a planescape metaplot in non-planescape setting books & making changes to that non-planescape setting to make it for planescape, but using the core books as a subditute for a planescape/FR sourcebook instead of more neutralstuff only goes so far into "better".
 

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It's still problematic for darksun, potentially =spelljammer, & tbh eberron as well because Asmodeus as so much setting specific lore attached to him & so much of that lore is linked to the planescape planes. It's not like a substitution that doesn't try to force all that couldn't fit either.
Asmodeus
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A Demon
A Fiend
A Devil

Yes it's better than when they were printing a planescape metaplot in non-planescape setting books & making changes to that non-planescape setting to make it for planescape, but using the core books as a subditute for a planescape/FR sourcebook instead of more neutralstuff only goes so far into "better".
What's that a quote from? If you read Eberron: Rising from the Last War, it makes no mention of Asmodeus.
 



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