Have some books become 'definitive'?


d20 Call of Cthulhu is the definitive counterexample for those who claim that all d20 can do is heroic, OTT action-movie stuff.

Considering I don't think d20 CoC does that too well, I don't think that's the most sterling example.
 
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Hong "SAN loss 5 and counting" Ooi
 
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In my mind Relics & Rituals 1 is the definitive spells/magic book. Its been a couple years but its still the best IMO.

Tome of Horrors is the definitive monsters book. Its got all the classic beasties that had been ignored (at that time) by Wizards.

I don't actually think that any other books are a must have as much as these two are.
 

DragonLancer said:
Tome of Horrors is the definitive monsters book. Its got all the classic beasties that had been ignored (at that time) by Wizards.

Ahh... but does it have the classic beasties that weren't ignored? Hard to call a monster book definitive if it doesn't have the staples of D&D fantasy known as red dragons, goblins, orcs, and the like...

(Of course, I could be wrong; not having read through Tome of Horrors, I don't know what's in it).
 

I don't consider anything in the core books as definitive as you have to buy them to play the game. If your talking definitive, then you have ignore them and just consider the third party releases.
 

Psion said:
Considering for you that 2e sheets are still a major monster resource, I am not sure I would stake too much on what you have or have not heard of. :)
LoL! Touche. (But, hey, there's a bunch of classic monsters that have never updated in all those compendiums, so I had to do it myself. And besides, I think the removable sheets still has the best utility for DMs yet.)

But "Beyond Monks"? What the hell is that? Sounds pretty pdf-y to me (and I don't think that can be considered "definitive" considering no one has it).
 

hong said:


Psion?

OH MY GOD! THEY GOT PSION!


Hong "SAN loss 5 and counting" Ooi


Now will you give me the Pirate kitty? I'll trade you a Psion for him.

Mini-Hong
1/8th the Size of the Original!
 

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But "Beyond Monks"? What the hell is that? Sounds pretty pdf-y

It is.

But considering the rift of good "exotic unarmed fighting styles" type martial arts material out there for d20 and the value of the product, I stand by my statement. :)
 

hong said:
OH MY GOD! THEY GOT PSION!

What, you've never seen anyonehave an online conniption before? Look at his user title - "Very Cross". Seems that you finally cheesed him off enough to give him an apoplectic fit. Offer him a Little Debbie snack cake or something, and he'll be fine...
 
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