Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
Not even that. Those folks on Kickstarter are doing so under license from the people who now actually own it all.
They lost the house and now have to rent the garden shed from the new owner.
D&D General “Folk” D&D vs. “Official” D&D
They lost the house and now have to rent the garden shed from the new owner.
Mind of tempest
(he/him)advocate for 5e psionics
one breeds the other like fire makes ash.
Jaeger
That someone better
Another hard disagree.
I still don't want to derail the thread - feel free to PM if you want a spirited debate.
Ruin Explorer
Legend
Really good video, though I think the idea that there's a split between the groups is questionable, I think it's more of a spectrum from one to the other, and the middle has a ton of crossover.
I think I'm sort of "folk in Official's clothing myself", if that makes any sense. I'm very concerned that if there are going to be official rules, and official rulings, they should be correct or sane or well-done, not idiocy. But at the same time, if there isn't official stuff, I'm not that concerned. Certainly with other RPGs I run I run them much more in the folk style, though part of that is because of the far more simple and less-interlocking rules in most of those, making me more confident changes won't cause problems down the line.
Ruin Explorer
Legend
I mean, I don't think that's actually, true, is it?
The issues WW was having when it got bought by CCP games in 2006 are tiny compared to the issues TSR was having when it got bought by WotC, no? It's just that CCP had a ton of money. They could easily have bought WW at literally any time it existed, in a financial sense. It wasn't like TSR where they were in financial collapse.
CCP games then utterly mismanaged White Wolf in every possible way. It's an absolute scandal some of the stuff they did. What they sold to Paradox was basically just bloody remains and some IP.
So claiming "White Wolf" did that is kind of misleading at best. A terrible videogame company did it.
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Warpiglet-7
Cry havoc! And let slip the pigs of war!
Hell yeah! I don’t want to make a phb and to create a player base! I want to buy a book or a chess set and sit down to play with someone else who also has the same reference.
In fact, if we don’t need any published anything just stir down with a pencil some dice and do your thing!
Also I don’t feel like a helpless consumer. Witness the many new books I choose not to own!
Ruin Explorer
Legend
Jaeger
That someone better
IMO; Potaoto, potahto; who was at the WW helm is a side show - it said WW on the tin, and it happened.
#2 game run down into irrelevance.
Same with all the non-D&D hobby big names from the 90's. Almost all those companies either went under, changed hands, or are shells of what they used to be.
Not WotC's fault.
But in those other companies defense only WotC had the corporate cash to just flat out stop a profitable game line (4E) because it didn't sell like they wanted it to - suck saltwater for a year, then release a new hotness to grab back market share.
No one else in RPG land can pivot like that.
Such are the advantages of being the market leader...
Oofta
Legend
Having worked for corporations all my life, I don't have a problem with them making a profit. I like getting paid. Capitalism in and of itself is not the problem, it's a horrible system it's just better in most cases than the alternative.
But taxes? Safety regulations? Those aren't appropriate topics for this forum.
