D&D General No More Baldur's Gate From Larion: Team Is 'Elated'

Henadic Theologian said:

They are about to release Exodus, the time dialation Intersellar meets Mass Effect like game in 2025.

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Well the proof will be in the pudding then. Let's see how it turns out once it arrives.

I for one would love a plethora of dnd video games, if they are good. I'm not even talking bg3 level good. But after they ruined the dark alliance game, I have my doubts that we will get another good game anytime soon.

Azzy said:

Is that even a thing?

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Henadic Theologian said:

I would love to be that studio, if I had the money behind it to do it right.

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Just because you have the money and a studio, doesn't mean you can do it 'right'.

And another studio needs to 'learn' BG3 from the ground up to do DLC for it. Also unless this was contracted already at the start of development, Larian's CEO current 'opinion' on WotC/Hasbro doesn't give me the vibe that they would license out their engine to someone they don't trust (anymore) for a product(s) that might very well compete the next Larian product. Of course, Larian is a business and money is important, IF WotC/Hasbro were to offer enough money, even Larian would be hard pressed to say no. But looking at the current video game situation at WotC/Hasbro D&D, I seriously doubt WotC/Hasbro is willing to spend that much money on it and Larian doesn't trust them enough to get into some sort of profit sharing scheme. So unless there's some old contract already in place, I expect BG3 to be SOL.

@Zardnaar You can say a lot about WotC/Hasbro software messes the last 25 years, but Magic: Arena is pretty darned good and they haven't messed that up (yet). But that is one project out of many...

@BovineofWar I just looked at the trailer for Exodus, and it looks very good, very emotional. It creates a taste of the setting, but no idea how it will play. It feels like an AAA game and they are already 4 years into development, so I doubt that they'll have any time for BG3 DLC or BG4 anytime soon. Especially not if they manage to establish a succesful new IP...

bert1001 fka bert1000 said:

Almost finished with Solasta Crown after finished BG3 and really enjoying it. Enjoying it as much as BG3 but in different ways.

It's better than BG3 in :

1) 5e rules implementation -- attunement, no busted haste, real flying, etc.
2) keeping things decently challenging in combat until maybe level 7-8 or so. I'm finding 9+ pretty easy though.
3) love the traveling! Could even be improved on but great concept to impart a bigger world
4) interface is better for the most part
5) grids and line of sight markers!
6) refreshing short side quests - go here, fight 1 battle, get something, done!

Overall I find the overall story fine if generic- find the 5 parts of x.

The dialogue and site based story flow is really bad. Sometimes I fight a bunch of things and then someone pops up and talks to me as if I’m not trashing their home with some dialogue that implies I’m suppose to know what’s going on….

That said, it has kind of grown on me by looking at it as if this is a bunch of 12 year olds playing D&D , with bad banter and a first attempt at piecing together a story!

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It's shocking how great Solasta would be if they would JUST hire a couple of good writers. Because they're nailing so many of the other elements. But I have no idea if they ever will address that problem. The Lost Valley DLC, incidentally, is actually much worse than the original campaign.

Founder and CEO of Larian Games, developer of Baldur's Gate 3 addressed some online discussion in is latest tweet.


I think people need to realize that these are creatives. If you work on the same thing for 7 years (and support it for a little while more), you might want to move on to something else. Has anyone here been a DM on a campaign for 7 years? You get tired of it at some point.

I hope they make something great, but after I bounced off of DOS2 and learnt that what I don't like about BG3 are "Larianisms" I don't expect much for me.

Zardnaar said:

Well the proof will be in the pudding then. Let's see how it turns out once it arrives.

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Yeah, that's the key. I'm not trying to convince anyone of the glory of Hasbro, just that they do have some talented people there, whatever the corporate overlords are up to.

Karpyshyn was definitely mostly a writer, but he was one of the key writers for BG2 and lead for Mass Effect 1 and 2. Ohlen was a lead designer and design director for BioWare Edmonton, and the founder of BioWare Austin (Star Wars KotOR MMORPG) so he's demonstrated experience founding studios and managing game projects.

Ruin Explorer said:

As for "you could shoot it from a distance", no, not day one you couldn't. You're retcon'ing stuff that became possible with the later updates to the encounter into always being there. Understandable given how many changes there were over time.

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No. You are 100% wrong. You could, and I did. There is zero percent chance I am misremembering this. I played it day one. I shot it from a distance. I played it one other time, a year later. I also shot it from a distance. I never played it again until launch. I never dealt with it any other way than shooting it from a distance during the EA. You just didn't think about doing it, and now you're making up crap about me e retconning in real life rather than admit you might be wrong about something.

Ruin Explorer said:

You're quoting a deeply obscure FR novel, that people (including you) only know about or have heard of because of that ridiculous and out-of-character line, and how poorly it fits with the FR, and acting like it's representative of the FR. It's not. The FR is flatly not a grimdark setting. Insisting that it is means that essentially every single fantasy setting is "grimdark" and thus the term is meaningless, and obviously that's not the case. The FR novels definitely have some edgelord stuff in them, especially some of the '90s and early '00s ones, but that's not representative of the setting as a whole, and lot of what happens in the novels is simply not canon, so pretending it is is bizarre behaviour and misleading.

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It is neither a particularly obscure novel, nor something I only know about because someone else told me about that scene. I, like a metric naughtywordton of other people, read the novel when it came out. It's part of the extremely popular Elminster line of novels, written by Ed Greenwood. Lots of people know about it. Most of them don't comment on that scene because it didn't strike them as out of character. Most of the time, when I bring it up, people defend him rather than claim it was out of character. You are, once again, just making crap up in a knee-jerk attempt to dismiss points that go against your conclusions.

Since you can't argue in good faith, welcome to the mute list.

Mod Edit: Language. ~Umbran

Rystefn said:

.. I, like a metric ****ton of other people, read the novel when it came out.

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Mod Note:
Please watch your language.

Rystefn said:

Since you can't argue in good faith, welcome to the mute list.

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We definitely encourage you to use the site's features to curate your experience. That's what we have them for.

Making a multiple-paragraph post and ending with that announcement, however, is somewhat less mature; a parting shot ending with, "Nyah, nyah, you can't respond! Pbltpppblt"

Next time, resist the urge to take that party shot. Just use the ignore list, and walk away, please.

I watched the GameSpot interview with Sven and am feeling confident they are walking away from BG3 as a more experienced, more knowledgeable, more skilled,and better funded company. Whatever they do next is going to be great.