Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
I think the last one was literally them just saying "don't get political in public," which people construed as them taking a position.
D&D (2024) OAR 10 City State of the Invincible Overlord
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For your reporting needs, here's some digging on Goodman's about-face.
Some Dude
Adventurer
Not arguing with you per se, but unless Troll Lord takes a similarly dim view of all political statements by employees, they absolutely are taking a position. The reason people found out about one of the owners being a Candace Owens fan is that he was following her on his Facebook page, which had tons of stuff about his being owner of Troll Lord, while at the same time reprimanding an employee for criticizing a mask/vaccine policy on their socials.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
I get you. I'm the person who magically appears in every thread where someone claims that some sort of game content isn't political to point out that even just supporting the status quo is inherently political.
But people in the past have taken the "no politics, please" comment and really run with it, extrapolating it into all sorts of stuff that there's no particular evidence that the Troll Lords espouse.
Similarly, while people definitely do take following a page as an endorsement -- and it often is -- it's also jumping to a conclusion.
It's enough to raise questions about the Troll Lords, for sure, but I would be hesitant about reaching a conclusion with just these two data points.
Some Dude
Adventurer
In a semi-recent reddit AMA, I believe this person referred to their following of Owens as a "dark" or "confusing" period, something like that. I understand your point, but when it comes to someone following individuals who are primarily known for a certain type of commentary (Owens, Andrew Tate, Alex Jones, et. al), I will admit I'm not inclined to go out of my way looking for nuance. Owens' hatefulness isn't some deep, obscure lore. It's the main thing she's known for. You're not following someone like that for their cooking tips.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
I don't think you can automatically say that every follow is because someone agrees with a page. People follow pages when loved ones go down rabbit holes, trying to figure out what's going on with them. They follow pages when they're trying to see both sides of an argument -- "what is this person actually saying, compared to what I'm hearing about them?"
Is it true most of the time that people follow pages they agree with? Absolutely.
But I don't think -- and I say this as someone who is absolutely not a Candace Owens fan -- that you can automatically equate following with agreement without more datapoints.
If one of the Troll Lords was hitting like one everything Owens posted, that would be conclusive. But I don't think following gets us there yet.
Some Dude
Adventurer
Except for the thing where they talked about it in their AMA as if it was something they were ashamed of. That kind of confirms that he was following her for pretty much the reason you'd think. I get that, yes, there can be outliers, but the odds are the odds for a reason. And in this case, the odds seem to have been correct.
Voadam
Legend
According to Wikipedia CSIO had multiple editions and versions.
The City-State has gone through several editions:
There was a period too where a large selection of judge's guild PDFs were available for sale on Drivethru really cheap, I got a few of those like the Witches Court Marshes module. They are no longer available.
The City-State has gone through several editions:
- Judges Guild: Campaign Installment I (1976), 16-page booklet (D&D)
- Judges Guild: Guide to the City State (1977), 56-page booklet (D&D)
- Judges Guild: Revised City State of the Invincible Overlord (1978–1980, three printings), 80-page book.(D&D)
- Judges Guild: Revised City State of the Invincible Overlord (1981–1983, three printings), 96-page book. (1983 edition had "Approved for use with D&D" removed from cover)
- Mayfair Games: Revised City State of the Invincible Overlord (1987) and published a supplement, Calandia Guidebook in 1989.
- Judges Guild: Reprinted edition of 1981-83 edition of Revised City State of the Invincible Overlord (1999), 96-page book (D&D)
- Necromancer Games: City State of the Invincible Overlord (2004), 288-page hardcover book (revised d20)
There was a period too where a large selection of judge's guild PDFs were available for sale on Drivethru really cheap, I got a few of those like the Witches Court Marshes module. They are no longer available.
Parmandur
Book-Friend, he/him
Yup, DriveThruRPG deplatformed them entirely.
overgeeked
Open-World Sandbox
Well, that is taking a position. If someone says "vaccines are good" in public and you tell them to stop it, you are absolutely taking a position.
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