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Goodman Games Revives Relationship With Anti-Semitic Publisher For New City State Kickstarter [UPDATED]

City State of the Invincible Overlord was a 1976 game setting from Judges Guild--indeed, it was the first game setting for D&D, albeit from a third party. It features a dwarven stronghold called Thunderhold, which operates as a base of operations for D&D campaigns.
  • UPDATE--Scroll down to the end of this post to see the statement posted by Goodman Games.
Judges Guild, founded by Bob Bledsaw and Bill Owen, sold City State until it was licensed to Mayfair Games in the 1980s, before returning to Judges Guild with a new printing in 1999, and collectors editions via a partnership with Necromancer Games in the early 2000s. All in all there have been over a half-dozen editions of the setting, ranging from small booklets to boxed sets to 300-page hardcovers.

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Fast forward to 2020, when Judges Guild owner Bob Bledsaw II (the son of the co-founder, Bob Bledsaw) posted a variety of racist and anti-semitic statement online. The statements referenced topics such as 'Jewish media', disappointment at the outcome of the American civil war, and holocaust denial, as well as lengthy posts where he describes himself as 'pro-life, anti-gay, and against self-mutilation' and speaks proudly of his family's history in the Crusades, which he 'considers a calling'. Additionally, he made references to 9/11 'truth', his family's history of slavery, and defends his 'racial humor'.

It should be noted that these statements were all made by Bob Bledsaw II, not by Bob Bledsaw Snr, who co-founded Judges Guild and passed away in 2008.

As EN World reported at the time, various game publishers, including Bat in the Attic, and Frog God Games, cut ties with Judges Guild, and DriveThruRPG stopped selling the company's products, saying "The Judges Guild publisher account has been closed and they are no longer available on DriveThruRPG."

Rob Conley of Bat in the Attic stated at the time that the company would no longer do business with Judges Guild, or its properties. "Sunday evening, I called Robert Bledsaw II and discussed the issue. I notified him that I will no longer be doing future Judges’ Guild projects and will only continue to sell what I have currently listed. I stated that I will be calling the other Judges Guild licensee and inform them of the situation and of my decision."

Frog God Games, which had been working with Judges Guild for nearly 20 years at the time, followed suit. "Recently the owner of Judges Guild made a series of racist and anti-semitic posts on Facebook. We will not reproduce them here; they are shown on Rob Conley's Bat in the Attic blog, and we are convinced of their authenticity. Rob wrote his post because, as a licensee of Judges Guild property, he felt he needed to state clearly that he would not be doing business with Judges Guild in the future. We have also licensed property from Judges Guild in the past, and we are seconding Rob's example by cutting off all future business with Judges Guild. The posts made on Facebook were completely unacceptable."

Amongst those cutting ties with Judges Guild, notably, was Goodman Games, who made a statement in February 2020:

Following up on our recent video, this statement is to confirm the following points regarding Goodman Games and our former relationship with Judges Guild.

To start with, we are disgusted and disheartened by the antisemitism, bigotry, racism, homophobia, and transphobia exhibited by the current owners of Judges Guild.

Goodman Games has stopped selling our previous Judges Guild products through all distribution channels.

Judges Guild will no longer receive income from Goodman Games products now that sales of their titles have ceased.

We have one remaining product to release, which is a collector’s edition focused on the works of Jennell Jaquays. Jennell’s story is one quite different from the views espoused by Bob Bledsaw Jr. Judges Guild and Bob Bledsaw Jr. have agreed to receive no royalties of any kind from this title. To say it bluntly: Bob Bledsaw Jr. and Judges Guild will not profit from the Judges Guild Deluxe Collector’s Edition Vol. 2 focused on the works of Jennell Jaquays. Goodman Games will match 20% of the proceeds of this title with donations: 10% to the Anti Defamation League and 10% to GLAAD. The funds that would have been used for a Judges Guild licensing fee will be included in this donation, as requested by Bob Bledsaw Jr.

After this final volume, we have no plans to release future Judges Guild titles.

We are deeply saddened and frankly horrified by the views espoused by Bob Bledsaw Jr.


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In early 2014, Judges Guild ran a Kickstarter to bring back City State of the Invincible Overlord, with nearly a thousand backers raising $85K. A decade later, the Kickstarter has not yet been fulfilled. The latest update was in May 2020.

Goodman Games this week announced a new version of City State of the Invincible Overlord, coming to crowdfunding this summer, for 5E and its own in-house DCC RPG. It appears that the property is still owned by Judges Guild, and is being licensed from them by Goodman Games, as a comment from Aaron James Bledsaw on Facebook indicates [sic]:

Goodman games does had a license to do this and other Wilderlands products, It has been in the works for a long while and I'm glad it's finally seeing the light of day.
- Aaron James Bledsaw​

The current crowdfunding page also confirms that the project is being undertaken under license from Judges Guild.

Based on the original City State of the Invincible Overlord by Bob Bledsaw, Sr. as published by Judges Guild. This product is produced under license from Judges Guild.

In their announcement video, Goodman Games did not directly reference the situation, but CEO Joseph Goodman commented. It should be noted that the incidents previously referenced are not mentioned specifically, and this was not a response to a question about them.

Yeah I keep coming back to the fact that so many of the things that I do with Goodman Games whether it's content-wise or business practices was really established in the 70s by Bob Bedslaw Snr and Bill Owen, it's kind of amazing but I think it's important to point out that nothing is changing about Goodman Games. We've done things in a certain way for 24 years. A large part of our fan base has grown up to appreciate that. And those of us who have seen behind the curtain as to what we are producing whether it's Mike and Chris on this call or Doug and his announcements at Dungeon Con and his enthusiasm for doing the cover, I think all you know Doug, all you know me, all you know Mike and Chris, and you know what we're about and that's what we'll bring to City State of the Invincible Overlord. We intend to publish this the Goodman Games way, the way we've done it for 24 years and the way we will hopefully do it for many years to come and my personal opinion is I like to build bridges rather than walls. I think there's been a lot of experiences in the last couple years in America of people building walls amongst each other. I'd rather encourage dialogue, encourage conversation, get people talking and have people converge on what I hope is a unified perspective for how we can all go forward together in a collaborative way.
- Joseph Goodman​

Additionally, of note, is that the Judges Guild products on Goodman Games' website had--at least until 2023--a note which said "A portion of the proceeds from sales of this title will be donated to charitable causes." That note is now absent on those products.

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We have reached out to Goodman Games for comment and will update you if we hear anything further.


UPDATE (same day) -- Goodman Games Posts Statement

Goodman Games has not responded to our email, but Joseph Goodman has just posted a statement regarding The City State of the Invincible Overlord. 
  • The project was an outstanding project dating back to before 2020 when Goodman Games cut ties with Judges Guild.
  • Judges Guild has promised Goodman Games that all proceeds from their share of the project's revenue will go towards refunding backers from their older unfulfilled Kickstarter.
  • Backers of that older Kickstarter will get a discount on the new one.


Hi everyone,

It’s Thursday afternoon and I’ve just spent part of the morning driving and thinking about the amazing weekend we had with Dungeon Con I at our warehouse in Indiana. It was great to see so many people, staff and customers, come together to celebrate the DCC community we’ve tried so hard to build over the last 15 years. It was exhausting, exhilarating, and more fun than any of us imagined.

One of the things that we announced at Dungeon Con was our next Original Adventure Reincarnated series, The City State of the Invincible Overlord. (Check out our announcement here.) We were originally going to wait to announce it, but in the excitement of Dungeon Con we couldn’t wait to share the news.

Normally with something like this we try to do a series of posts and videos highlighting the project. Because I was so focused on Dungeon Con, we didn’t address everything about the announcement that I should have, and that’s on me.

Since Saturday, we have had several questions concerning the project coming from in and outside of our community. I wanted to address some of those questions and concerns today.

Goodman Games has long been a company taking older roleplaying game products and bringing them forward to new audiences. One of our earliest successes was with Jim Ward’s Metamorphosis Alpha, seeing Goodman Games publish both old and new adventures in what was the very first Science Fiction roleplaying game.

One of the other great successes we had was bringing the work of Judge’s Guild to modern audiences. We published two colossal, archival quality volumes documenting the early work of Bob Bledsaw Sr., Bill Owens and Jennelle Jaquays.

In 2020, we and the entire gaming industry were made aware of comments and postings by the current owners of Judge’s Guild. We addressed this in a video, as well as a statement on our website where we said the following: “we are disgusted and disheartened by the antisemitism, bigotry, racism, homophobia, and transphobia exhibited by the current owners of Judges Guild.”

It’s hard to express how upset I was personally and professionally by the events of 2020. I don’t discuss my family, but the posts and comments that came to light affected all of us, including my children. What I saw was repugnant and vile.

Unfortunately, the 2020 revelations also left several pending projects in limbo. Legally, we can’t discuss specifics, but one of those was our adaptation of the City State of the Invincible Overlord for OAR.

The City State of the Invincible Overlord is an important work in the history of roleplaying games. It’s the first richly developed setting for fantasy roleplaying games. It launched thousands of campaigns. Bob Bledsaw Sr. and Bill Owens, honorable and decent men, created something that was an important milestone and one that projects are still being measured by today.

Our OAR of the City State of the Invincible Overlord faced one of two paths: We could simply choose to shut down our work and let the project end or proceed knowing that the monies going to Judges Guild would be supporting something that all of us at Goodman Games found reprehensible.

In 2010, Judge’s Guild had a Kickstarter campaign to publish an updated version of the City State of the Invincible Overlord that saw it backed by 965 backers who pledged over $85,000. For several years, Judge’s Guild has offered backers the option to receive a refund if they contact Judge’s Guild through their website and request one.

Judge’s Guild has committed to Goodman Games that any funds received by them from our moving forward with the OAR City State of the Invincible Overlord will be used to fund refunds from the 2010 Kickstarter. With that commitment, we agreed to move forward with the project as we felt it was the only way for original backers to receive their funds in a timely manner.

We hope this will be seen as a positive development for backers of the original Kickstarter. We encourage those backers to contact Judge’s Guild via this page and request instructions for receiving a refund. (You should be ready to have screen captures of your backer information available.)

These were the only terms that were acceptable to Goodman Games. We want to see the original backers of the 2010 Kickstarter made whole. We also want to bring an updated version of the City State of the Invincible Overlord forward into the 21st century and give new audiences a chance to explore what made it so compelling almost 50 years ago.

At the same time, we want to announce that when our City State of the Invincible Overlord goes live we will be offering a special discount to verified backers of the original Judge’s Guild Kickstarter. You have waited for over a decade, and we don’t want you to wait any longer.

Thanks,
Joe Goodman
 

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Who's clear on the series of events?
From what I understand, they said that they wouldn't make another JG product, but they also say that they're contracted to produce this one- from before they said they wouldn't make another? Or what?
Not really clear on the timeline.
 

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Who's clear on the series of events?
From what I understand, they said that they wouldn't make another JG product, but they also say that they're contracted to produce this one- from before they said they wouldn't make another? Or what?
Not really clear on the timeline.
In 2020 they said there was only one more JG product in the pipeline--the Jennell Jaquays compilation.

They are now saying that this one was also, if I understand them correctly.

They haven't said they're contractually obliged to produce it. They also haven't said they're not.
 

Who's clear on the series of events?
From what I understand, they said that they wouldn't make another JG product, but they also say that they're contracted to produce this one- from before they said they wouldn't make another? Or what?
Not really clear on the timeline.

They have not clarified and IMHO some of their statements have been written in a manner that sort of kind of implies they had a contract but thus far, all of these statements have very carefully not stated directly that there was any contract or obligation. And while many many people have asked if there was a contractual obligation, they have never directly answered that question.

Also at the time Goodman said they were no longer working on any further projects, the Bledshaws themselves were directly stating on Kickstarter that they were publishing the next version of City State through their kickstarter, once they had the funds to complete work. They did not mention any other contract for the product at that time.

Given those two things. I do not believe they were contractually obligated to produce this book, but that is an opinion. I do not have access to Goodman's Books.
 


Was looking for something like this, seems this one went off the rails.
I've been comparing similar stuff (including the Mecha Hack) and ultimately I landed on Kill ENGN. It's really good, feature complete, has a surprising amount of flexibility (including 4 scales of mechs), and even has an adventure (at least one official one, and I think several others from other designers).
 


Because moving forward with the new effort, with folks out money on the last one, is/looks like a jerk move to some.

I'm guessing it helps with their (and some of their customers') angst about how much they're dealing with BII to get it done. ("Oh, that makes sense and doesn't seem as awful....").
 


The text from below the video:

How do I apply for a refund? To apply for a refund, original backers of the 2014 JG CSIO Kickstarter should email details to csio-refund@goodman-games.com following the steps outlined below.

Please note: Several of you have already emailed info@goodman-games.com and we are reviewing those emails to make sure they have the necessary information as outlined below. We will follow up with you if any additional information is required.

With a potential of 965 claimants for the original amount of $85,130, we are requesting that you provide sufficient information to ensure we are properly refunding the amount pledged. The following information must be included in your email:

  • Items that must be in the body of your email:
    — Legal name (this must be a name that a check can be cashed from)
    — Your CURRENT mailing address (especially important if you have moved since 2014)
    — Your Backer Number of the original project.
    — US refunds will be issued by check. If you reside at an address outside the United States, please indicate your payment preference: Either a check in US funds or payment via PayPal.
  • You will need to attach multiple screen captures of your original pledge with the following information. For detailed instructions on how to find these screens, scroll to the bottom of this post.
    — Backing Details tab selected that clearly shows your Backer Number.
    — Survey Responses tab that shows your name and address as submitted for the original survey.
    — Pledge Summary that shows your original Pledge Total, i.e., the amount you are requesting as a 2014 JG CSIO claimant. This should include your Reward, Bonus Support, and Pledge Total with “Collected” highlighted in green under your Pledge Total amount.
We are aware that several backers of the 2014 JG CSIO Kickstarter have submitted claims previously via the Kickstarter campaign page or directly to Judges Guild. We would ask those backers who have made claims directly to Judges Guild in any manner to please get in touch with us via the instructions above. We cannot guarantee that we will receive your refund request information from Judges Guild and any claims made directly to Judges Guild will not be paid by Goodman Games.

Frequently Asked Questions

How do I receive the 10% discount on the 2025 GG CSIO project?
Goodman Games wants all the original backers of the 2014 JG CSIO Kickstarter project to have an opportunity to explore our new project. To that end we are offering verified claimants of the original Kickstarter a one-time 10% discount on the 2025 GG CSIO project.

To receive the 10% discount link to the 2025 GG CSIO campaign, backers must submit their info via the 2014 JG CSIO Kickstarter refund process listed above. Backers who have sent in their supporting documentation and been verified as legitimate claimants will receive information on the 10% discount.

How will the refund account be funded?
The “refund account” will be funded with proceeds of the 2025 GG CSIO campaign, up to a maximum of the $85,130 needed to refund the entire original 2014 JG CSIO project. These funds will be held in an escrow account for the sole purpose of refunding original 2014 JG CSIO Kickstarter backers. We will be monitoring the progress of the campaign closely and taking steps to cap the project so that funds will be placed in the escrow account will not be more than $85,130.

When will refunds be issued?
Refunds will be issued after the Goodman Games product is fulfilled and ships in its entirety. We anticipate this to be 9-12 months after the campaign concludes.

Why is there a delay between the campaign closing and issuing refunds?
Goodman Games wants to refund as many backers of the original 2015 JG CSIO Kickstarter campaign as possible. While we have begun to receive claims we want to make sure the claimant pool is as large as possible.

Will I get a full or partial refund?
Refunds will be offered in an even manner based on the number of claims made, and the amount of funding received, up to a possible maximum refund value of 100% of original pledge. If funds raised are below claims from the original amount raised by the 2014 JG CSIO Kickstarter, then refunds will be issued on a prorated basis.

How will refunds be issued?
Refunds to US residents will be issued by check. Refunds to overseas backers will be issued by PayPal or a check drawn on US funds.

Is a third party review involved?
For transparency, all claims received will be reviewed and authenticated by a third party who does not work for Goodman Games.

How will refunds be communicated?
As refunds begin to be paid Goodman Games will publish a regular series of updates to the refund process identifying backers by their Backer Number and the amount issued to them. If Backers are to receive prorated amount the proration process will be fully explained and made public before refunds will begin to be issued.

What is the last date to make a claim?
Goodman Games will set a date, to be determined, that will be the last day to make a claim for a refund of the 2014 JG CSIO Kickstarter. This date will be widely advertised via all of Goodman Games social media channels and as a post on the Goodman Games website. This notice will be made no less than 30 (Thirty) days prior to the closure of the claim process. Any claims received after the closure of the claim process will not be considered for compensation.

What happens with leftover funds?
Any funds left after the claim process is complete are contractually obligated to be paid to Judges Guild. Goodman Games is committing that we will match any amount owed to Judges Guild and make donations to charitable organizations supporting our goals of diversity and inclusivity.

What if I have additional questions?
For general questions about this process, please contact us at info@goodman-games.com. If you have specific questions regarding your 2014 JG CSIO Kickstarter refund status, please email csio-refund@goodman-games.com.

How To Find The Screen Grabs to Submit a Refund Claim

  • Go to the original project page here.



  • Scroll down until you can see “Your selection” along the right side of the page.



  • At the bottom of “Your selection” you should see a green button labeled “Your Pledge Info.” Please click that button. It should take you to a page that looks like this:
This screenshot contains 2 of the 3 things needed for a 2014 JG CSIO Kickstarter claim:

The Pledge Total is on the left side of the page and the Backer number is on the right side of the page. Both of these are highlighted in this screen shot.




  • On the right side of the page please select the Survey Responses tab. You should then see the information that you provided when you sent in your original survey. It should look like this:



If your survey results are lengthy please take as many screen shots as needed to capture all of the information.
 


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