Black Flag Players Guide 2 Kickstarter! Witch, Theurge and Vanguard!

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fettpett

Explorer

• Wednesday at 1:48 PM

• #1

For those into Tales of the Valiant/Black Flag Players Guide 2 kickstarter has been live for just over a week, introducing revamped Witch and Theurge for ToV and the brand new Vanguard! Free prieview is included (also linked below).
Vanguard is a spiritual successor to the 4e Warlord martial class, a d12 full plate, CHA martial.


Also, all three classes WILL be added to the BFRD after release, this has been confirmed on the discord and was added to the Kickstarter.

Kickstarter:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deepmagic/players-guide-2-new-power-for-5e-and-tov-players/description

Free Preview:

https://koboldpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/ToV-Players-Guide-2-Preview-FINAL.pdf

 

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Marc Radle

Legend

• Wednesday at 3:12 PM

• #2

Lead Designer Celeste Conowitch talks about Player's Guide 2 - the new Witch, Theurge and Vanguard base classes, the new Base rules, and more ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxGUf3VdIlA

 

aco175

Legend

• Wednesday at 6:05 PM

• #3

I do like the art all around the KS and in the video.

 

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sevenbastard

Legend

• Wednesday at 6:53 PM

• #4

Marc Radle said:

Theurge

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What is a Theuge? WIKI says its divine magic, so i guess some sort of cleric?

 

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fettpett

Explorer

• Wednesday at 7:01 PM

• #5

sevenbastard said:

What is a Theuge? WIKI says its divine magic, so i guess some sort of cleric?

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For ToV/5e (the original is printed in Deep Magic 1) it's an Intelligence based Divine and Arcane caster that specializes in concentration spells. There going to be an update for ToV.

 

Twiggly the Gnome

Legend

• Wednesday at 7:24 PM

• #6

There's definitely some Warlord inspiration in the Vanguard, but to me it feels like a single class Palbarian.

 

bedir than

Full Moon Storyteller

• Wednesday at 7:24 PM

• #7

Notable that there is a free, no registration sample at the Kickstarter. It includes the Vanguard.

 

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fettpett

Explorer

• Wednesday at 7:25 PM

• #8

bedir than said:

Notable that there is a free, no registration sample at the Kickstarter. It includes the Vanguard.

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That's the preview link above

 

Marc Radle

Legend

• Wednesday at 8:45 PM

• #9

There is absolutely some Warlord inspiration in the Vanguard for sure!

As others have said, the Theurge is an Arcane and Devine caster that can do some very cool interesting with concentration spells.
Of course, the various subclasses take the class in some very cool directions

As mentioned above, you can check out the FREE Preview PDF here:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deepmagic/players-guide-2-new-power-for-5e-and-tov-players

 

Weiley31

Legend

• Wednesday at 8:48 PM

• #10

Theurge is basically what happens when a Wizard goes "Hmmm, I sure could use some Cleric spells in my kit. But my wizard spells are cool too."

Samples a little bit of both wizard and cleric spells.

In Deep Magic 2, they had rules where they had to have a certain amount of both IIRC. Honestly, I always housed rule it that you can go that route, or go full Wizard or Cleric Spells list only if you decided too.

It's a D6 class with limited weapon options so I don't see it breaking anything by doing that.