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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    What about the person who doesn't want to create or convert whole campaign settings, or who doesn't want to create new magic systems and all the rest? In other words, someone who doesn't want to be a quasi-game designer, but just a casual player? What about the person who wants his Dungeons &...
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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    From what I understand, the D&D adventure game doesn't allow one to run a campaign like the 128-page Moldvay D&D edition from 1981 (which covered levels 1-14).
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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    What about a casual gamer who wants to play a few times each year? I don't think he'd want to pay $100.00 for something he'd take off the shelf once every three or four months. For example, some people will buy a DVD of a favorite movie and watch it 40 times. But I don't think these people...
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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    Many of Sword & Sorcery's hardbound books (Ghelspad, the two Creature Collections, Relics & Rituals) are $24.95. They also average 224 pages. I have no doubt that 3E Lite, as a WotC product that says "Dungeons & Dragons" on the cover and has 96 fewer pages than the S&S books listed above, could...
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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    Colonel, I recently bought Stratego Legends for $25.00, which is the price tag that should be on D&D ($20 book and $5 dice). To me, the expense of 3E is intertwined with the complexity of the game. Why the devil should the CORE RULE consist of 800 or so pages? That's just asinine. I can think...
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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    Well, somebody needs to be DM, so a given group will have to drop $100.00 just to play the game. That's outrageous. Not everybody wants to make a hobby of or devote a small fortune to D&D. A lot of people would like to play six times a year in a "beer and pretzels" style. That's worth $25.00...
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    My wife won't let me play D&D.

    I'm 32 and have been married for two and a half years. If worse comes to worse, I'd game regardless.
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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    By OAD&D I mean 1st edition. Original AD&D. I don't expect 3E to be exactly like OD&D. I want it to be as simple and as easy to learn and as slender as the 1981 Moldvay version of D&D. There are several things about 3E that I'm open to: faster level advancement faster healing greater balance...
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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    I guess it depends on what you mean by "complicated". I don't doubt that Rolemaster and several other RPGs are more complicated than 3E. I do think that 3E is more complicated than OAD&D. Consider: OAD&D Players Handbook: 128 pages 3E Players Handbook: 304 pages OAD&D Dungeon Masters Guide...
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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    I understand now, Merric! :) But these big stat blocks in the appendix is still something you never saw in TSR's OAD&D modules. The OAD&D modules didn't merely relegate big stat blocks to the back of modules for the simple reason that big stat blocks were utterly nonexistent. Why, then, does...
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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    Merric, I don't understand. Does this module contain full stat-blocks or not? From your post it seems like it doesn't, until the last four words of your post: "and full stat blocks". :confused:
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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    But maddman75, I wasn't comparing d20 modules with my home-made OAD&D dungeons. I was comparing d20 modules with the 1st edition modules published by TSR. Whereas the 1st ed modules had perhaps a couple lines of stats for NPCs (the exception being, of course, for spell lists), d20 modules will...
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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    I mentioned earlier that I prefer OAD&D to 3E because of the skills and feats that make for huge NPC stat blocks. A number of posters responded by saying that the huge stat blocks are largely unnecessary. If that is so, let me pose a question: Why does every single d20 module I've looked...
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    AD&D First Edition inferior?

    I prefer 1st edition AD&D over 3rd edition D&D because I like to play games rather than work at them. Case in point: As a DM in 1E, I can write the following in an adventure: Glend is a CE 13th level thief (AC 1, hp 39) with +3 leather armor and a +3 short sword. As a DM in 3E, I must write...
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    TSR Q&A with Gary Gygax

    Gary, thank you for making this the best RPG thread I've ever seen. Best of luck with all of the following: Lejendary Adventure--May its players double every three months! Castle GreyHack for HackMaster--We've been eagerly awaiting this for a long time. A pox on the shade of T$R! Your...
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    I'm sick to death of dwarves, elves, halflings, and gnomes!

    My thoughts exactly. There's only two possiblities regarding "altered" demi-humans: 1. They aren't really altered: "Look, dwarves in my world have dyed mohawks!" :rolleyes: 2. They aren't really dwarves, elves, halflings, or gnomes anymore. In which case, why call them such? It'd be like a...
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    I'm sick to death of dwarves, elves, halflings, and gnomes!

    Bravo! Right on the mark! (As an aside, it sounds like your homemade world might be a far sight better than 95% of the stuff that's published. Even sight unseen, I'd rather give you $30 for a copy of your world than $30 to some publisher so I can get Fantasy World Setting #74 that includes...
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    Egyptian Adventures!

    I agree. I think your ideas for an Egyptian campaign have a lot of potential, but dwarves and elves and such would just rip your game right out of Egypt and plunk it in Middle-earth.
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    I'm sick to death of dwarves, elves, halflings, and gnomes!

    Playing non-human characters isn't, IMO, for a serious campaign. To truly do justice to one's character in a serious campaign, I believe that the character needs to be human. That said, I think that seriously fun campaigns (even long-term ones) can have non-human PCs. I just want the non-human...
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    I'm sick to death of dwarves, elves, halflings, and gnomes!

    Ah, ha! That is the sort of thing I'm looking for! I love the quote from page 3 of "People of the Realms": "You will not see a Tolkien Orc or an Elf that looks surprisingly like that of the Elfquest variety. In fact, you will not see an Orc or an Elf at all." Yes!!! Now that takes guts and...
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