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I want to start of my next game session with a kind of rugby / soccer match between hill giants and a party of high level heroes (friendly sports). Anyone ever thought about a way to bring ball games on to a batllemap?

I am with you on the mobility, unfortunately, both the OPs as well my rogue are halflings ... and we ar often fighting large opponents. real hearache.

And those are spells? What level are they? Would you allow them as items?

Someone told me there are spells / feats / PrC to sneak attack constructs and undead ... is this true? Which books are they from? Thanks

Yes, but once you go above 10 levels MT, as I have tried to calculate in my post, the MT appears to go through the roof. I say appear, because I am not sure. The reason is that Wiz / Cleric spell casting progression stops at level 20, and that you can get par caster level with the practiced...

OK, I've done some math. If we allow a Sorc4 / Cler3 / MT x with 2x practiced spellcaster feats to progress as MT continously (or add a second double progression class), that character "hits" a single class caster by level 24: - spell progression to level 20 - caster level 24 So, compared to a...

I am so much with you on this one. My PCs are 16th level, and include a Halfling Rogue 14 / Ranger 2. The charactrer really is a dead horse, and I dont know how to help him out. TWF, major sneak damage and a DM who really tries to make him shine ... I just dont know what to do... In many...

Musrum, Owen, thanks for your input on classes. Owen, I assume that this class replaced the original MT? Or did you just use it to close the gap between lvl 17 and 20? What do the guys who play epic say to the value of the abilities to cast spells like a say, 13th to 14th level caster +...

True, but its somehow telling me the designers didnt think MT should progress with two caster levels indefinetely...

Can I use these new prestige classes for high level games? From the "historical accuracy" blurb, I get the feeling they are more a challenge for lets say, max 10th level PCs. I currently have 6 characters of approx. 16th - 18th level. Last session, they defeated a pair of nightwalkers fairly...

Magesmiley, do you have a source on that? Thanks

...ah, of course, my calculation above was faulty, because a a character at lvl 20 (Clr 3, Sorc 4, MT 13) would be 3 caster levels ahead (though not spells) ahead of a standard character. So, to quote rgard, does anyone have the epic build for MT?

I am not sure about the epic MT (didnt look into it, havent got my books with me). But in effect, I thought, you essentially give a character at lvl 20 (Clr 3, Sorc 4, MT 13) the same spell casting ability like a character lvl 23 (Clr 6, Sorc 7, MT 10) ... after that, things appear to stay flat...

Satori, some good points offered. Of course, Arcane Hierophant is no precedent for us because it was never allowed in our game ... but you're right that some playtester at WOTC found out that its not hurting the game too much. Its true that long running PCs are more sensible in power use, but...

Hi Herzog, looks like we are really working on the same topic here. have you voiced the idea to your fellow players / DM? Any reactions you'd wish to share?

Uh, I am sure there are even more broken builds. But I am in a campaign thats now running for four years, and I am not willing to discuss Ur-priest / MT combos ... I am more looking for experience / suggestions from a campaign with a more standard power level ... Herzog, thats exactly what I am...

Sorry, I'll be dropping out. I don't want to make a commitment I might not be able to follow through, and I have some personal troubles at the moment.

I have a PC who is currently Sorc 4 / Cler 3 / Mystic Theurge 9. As he is approaching 10th lvl of the Mystic Theurge, he is lobbying to have a prestige class allowed to continue advancing with both spell casting classes beyond level 17 (its a variant of the Arcane Hierophant). In theory, a Wiz 3...

first off, I also really like the creatures. and the pictures. and I'm looking forward to this. I do prefer some streamlining, for example: Have same caster level for all magical effects / spell like abilities... keep something like "alter self" without the "no duration limit" - especially...

This Qullan chap sounds great ... is it converted somewhere?