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well, i really dont play speacilist mages, but that still really sucks, and i agree that they should have left Universal a school, what schools <I>Permanency</I>, <I>Lesser Wish</I>, and <I>Wish</I> in now?

Does anybody have any ideas of how other classes would think of them, like the descriptions in the DMs guide, or the splatbooks?

And like haiiro said "Tinker" conjures up an image of a gnome working on some device that is going to blow up in his face.

YOU WRITE IN YOUR BOOKS!!!!!! HERESY!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

yah, thats what i am probably going to name it, sounds better, and it does fit more with what they can do.

Thanks those ideas will help me a lot.:)

Hmmm could anybody possibly help me with this class. Im trying to think of things they can make and am not doing too well ive just been writing ideas down on a notecard right now, here they are. Firearms Devices that improve speed Devices that allow you to fly Alchemical devices Airships...

Ive had an idea for a sort of tech based class in my head, what i want to know is what name do you think sounds better Artificer or Tinker. And no this class wont be the favored class for gnomes, just thought i would clear that up before all the gnomes start beating at my keecaps with their...

I was talking mainly about players not monsters. But hmmm*ponders on the Aboleth*

I think thats it, they want to imitate all their stupid little bandsj/k:)

My last character was a sorceror with 18 cha, i didnt play him as being obsessed with sex. I played him as being quiet, and very calm. He was also very polite, and would always apologize for anything stupid that our group did. Well i have to go somewhere, i wonder where this post will be in a...

Man this post really took off lol, myeah i guess your right, just annoying as hell sometimes, when the bards is always like"Im going to go hit on the barmaid"

The only problem with his two pcs is that their his pet npcs, he gave his 18th level bard golden dragonscale armor(which actually belonged to the 20th level bard npc) He even had his bard fight off a drow weaponmaster:eek: And his 20th level bard somehow manged to charm a Great Wyrm Gold...

My DM has two high level bards (who were pcs of his) in our world Although only one of them was a sexmaniac, but still i mostly see it in other games. Wow this has gotten a lot of posts in such a short time.

I see your point a lot of D&D players are teenagers(i myself am), and they all seem to play their bards this way:(

i guess your right, ive also always heard people talk about the bard in their group who is a sexmaniac. The reason im focusing mostly on bards is because like i said in my first post, they seem to have this stereotype attached to them.

How come all characters that have a high charisma are always roleplayed as being obsessed with sex, Bards in particular seem to have this stereotype associated with them. I thought charisma was force of personality, and although it could be used to get someone in bed, it doesnt always have to...

PIRATECAT IS A GOD!!!!! HE IS ALL KNOWING!!!!!

AOO RULES ARE TEH DEVIL!!!!!!! WE MUST KILL TEH DEVIL!!!!!!

"Sponsored to godhood by Nerull, Kyuss was a Flan priest in the ancient Empire of Sulm, which now lies buried in the Bright Desert. Escaping from there shortly before its destruction, he fled to the Wormcrawl Fissure near the Rift Canyon and underwent apotheosis. "Kyuss’ clerics adventure to...