High Charisma=Obsessed with sex?

[MeepoTheMighty]

That they do. I have seen bards, both male and female, played that way. But that was back in 1st and 2nd edition, when Charisma didn't really mean as much to the bard class as it does now, and even low Charisma bards were played that way.

Didn't you need a 15 or 16 Cha to even take the class?

 

[Gellion]

Since I came back to D&D in 2001 and got back to a system in which characters had charisma attributes, I haven't noticed this as a pattern at all.

I currently run two campaigns; in my Kazuria campaign, 3 of the 7 characters are charisma-based: 1 paladin, 1 sorceror, 1 bard. The bard is female, the paladin and sorceror are both male; in my Fimblewinter campaign, three of the characters are charisma-based: 2 bards and 1 shaman. Maybe, as in so many other ways, my group is atypical. Now that I muse over the list of characters, I find it peculiar that only one of the players with a charisma-based character is a straight male. I wonder what to make of that...

Anyway, I can sort of see your point. Supposing I was an immature teenaged boy who didn't understand that an RPG is a totally inappropriate place to explore anything sexual or romantic, and decided to roleplay getting all the sex I wasn't having in real life, I'd probably generate a bard.

I see your point a lot of D&D players are teenagers(i myself am), and they all seem to play their bards this way

 

[hunter1828]

Didn't you need a 15 or 16 Cha to even take the class?

I honestly don't remember...dammit....

but even with a higher Charisma as a prereq, it wasn't as overtly necessary to the spells, skills and powers of the bard...at least, IMO.

hunter1828

 

[Gellion]

My DM has two high level bards (who were pcs of his) in our world
Although only one of them was a sexmaniac, but still i mostly see it in other games.

Wow this has gotten a lot of posts in such a short time.

 

[hunter1828]

My DM has two high level bards (who were pcs of his) in our world
Although only one of them was a sexmaniac, but still i mostly see it in other games.

Wow this has gotten a lot of posts in such a short time.

In my primary campaign I have three NPCs with levels in bard (didn't plan it that way...it just happened), two are male and one is female. None are obsessed with sex, in fact one of the males is actually quite shy around females and the female bard has a long-term monogomous relationship with one of the PCs.

So, it can be different! There's hope!

hunter1828

 

[Zaruthustran]

I haven't seen a correlation between charisma and sex obsession. I think it all depends on the player.

I'm currently playing a low Cha character: a wood elf ranger with an 8 Cha. He's obsessed with sex.

Another player plays a high Cha Paladin. She's obsessed with sex (the player is female).

Yet another player plays a high Cha gnome sorcerer. He flirts a lot, but isn't obsessed with sex. Not more than a typical adult person, anyway.

They're adventurers; they could die at any time. Makes sense to me that they'd want to get as much action as possible before they finally miss a "save or die" roll.

Tangent: one pet peeve of mine is that many people think Charisma = attractiveness. It doesn't. Charisma measures self-awareness/self confidence (read the SRD). Attractiveness is not measured in D&D; your character can be gorgeous or fugly, regardless of the Cha stat.

-z

 

[Gellion]

In my primary campaign I have three NPCs with levels in bard (didn't plan it that way...it just happened), two are male and one is female. None are obsessed with sex, in fact one of the males is actually quite shy around females and the female bard has a long-term monogomous relationship with one of the PCs.

So, it can be different! There's hope!

hunter1828

The only problem with his two pcs is that their his pet npcs, he gave his 18th level bard golden dragonscale armor(which actually belonged to the 20th level bard npc) He even had his bard fight off a drow weaponmaster

And his 20th level bard somehow manged to charm a Great Wyrm Gold Dragon, this bard is also incredibly annoying he has split personalities. he goes up to you and says"Hey how about you give me a platinum", while hanging his arm over your shoulder, which is when he steals stuff from you, DM doesnt even let us role spot checks. One bards is the king of a city, the other is the king of an entire kingdom.

Sorry i got ot there hehe

 

[BigFreekinGoblinoid]

I completely agree with you Gellion.

Maybe the issue is that most PLAYERS are obsessed with sex ( being generally male and in their sexual prime ).

That's never gonna change.

It's only a problem you will be able to change in your home game.

Check out Bastion's "Allies & Adversaries" for some of the most blatant charisma abuse I have ever seen in a published product.

I'll let the "view" count of this thread in comparison with other recent threads eventually prove my point further.

 

[Felix]

I think we're all hung up on sex in one way or another, and that is reflected in our characters. Perhaps the characters with the high charisma scores are "allowed" by their DM to be roleplayed randier?

Put it this way: a character with a low low CHA might be obsessed with sex, but who's going to notice that if he has no force of personality? People will dismiss him and his desires. He will be forgotten.

But a character with a high CHA will be noticed by everyone. "Women want him. Men want to be him," to steal from a James Bond advert. He can get away with an obsession with sex because more folks are willing to have sex with him. That, and people will remember that he is a womanizer because his force of personality makes people remember him.

Bards generally have high CHA, and are the 'rarin to go sort. It's not suprising that many bards are played that way. Don't like it? Don't play your bard that way. Me? Personally, I can't think of a better bard than Ortwin from Sepulchrave II's story hour. And is he ever a fiend. Bully for him.

As for more folks with high CHA and little sex drive, how about the chaste priest, devoted to his god?

Low CHA and a healthy libido: all the fighters that get back to town and go whoring because they can't get it anywhere else.

I think the problem you might be having is with the people that play these characters, and not the characters themselves.

 

[Gellion]

I think we're all hung up on sex in one way or another, and that is reflected in our characters. Perhaps the characters with the high charisma scores are "allowed" by their DM to be roleplayed randier?

Put it this way: a character with a low low CHA might be obsessed with sex, but who's going to notice that if he has no force of personality? People will dismiss him and his desires. He will be forgotten.

But a character with a high CHA will be noticed by everyone. "Women want him. Men want to be him," to steal from a James Bond advert. He can get away with an obsession with sex because more folks are willing to have sex with him. That, and people will remember that he is a womanizer because his force of personality makes people remember him.

Bards generally have high CHA, and are the 'rarin to go sort. It's not suprising that many bards are played that way. Don't like it? Don't play your bard that way. Me? Personally, I can't think of a better bard than Ortwin from Sepulchrave II's story hour. And is he ever a fiend. Bully for him.

As for more folks with high CHA and little sex drive, how about the chaste priest, devoted to his god?

Low CHA and a healthy libido: all the fighters that get back to town and go whoring because they can't get it anywhere else.

I think the problem you might be having is with the people that play these characters, and not the characters themselves.

Man this post really took off lol, myeah i guess your right, just annoying as hell sometimes, when the bards is always like"Im going to go hit on the barmaid"